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From: Richard Gooch <rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca>
To: "Albert D. Cahalan" <acahalan@cs.uml.edu>
Cc: ingo.oeser@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Ingo Oeser),
	viro@math.psu.edu (Alexander Viro),
	cr@sap.com (Christoph Rohland),
	parsley@linuxjedi.org (David L. Parsley),
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: hundreds of mount --bind mountpoints?
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:49:18 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200104232249.f3NMnI126351@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200104232242.f3NMgej516228@saturn.cs.uml.edu>
In-Reply-To: <200104232119.f3NLJZT24922@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> <200104232242.f3NMgej516228@saturn.cs.uml.edu>

Albert D. Cahalan writes:
> Richard Gooch writes:
> 
> > We want to take out that union because it sucks for virtual
> > filesystems. Besides, it's ugly.
> 
> I hope you won't mind if people trash this with benchmarks.

But they can't. At least, not for a well designed patch. If there is a
real issue of fragmentation, then there are ways to fix that without
using a bloated union structure. Don't punish some filesystems just
because others have a problem.

Solutions to avoid fragmentation:

- keep a separate VFSinode and FSinode slab cache
- allocate an enlarged VFSinode that contains the FSinode at the end,
  with the generic pointer in the VFSinode part pointing to FSinode
  part.

It's simply wrong to bloat everyone because some random FS found it
easier to thow in a union.

Besides, for every benchmark that shows how fragmentation hurts, I can
generate a benchmark showing how inode bloat hurts. Lies, damn lies
and benchmarks.

				Regards,

					Richard....
Permanent: rgooch@atnf.csiro.au
Current:   rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-04-23 22:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-04-22 16:32 David L. Parsley
2001-04-22 16:41 ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-23 11:43 ` Christoph Rohland
2001-04-23 13:17   ` Ingo Oeser
2001-04-23 14:54     ` Christoph Rohland
2001-04-23 15:23       ` Ingo Oeser
2001-04-23 15:36         ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-23 20:45           ` Ingo Oeser
2001-04-23 20:56             ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-04-23 22:00               ` Ingo Oeser
2001-04-23 22:10                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-23 22:47             ` Andreas Dilger
2001-04-24  1:37             ` Jan Harkes
2001-04-24  2:53               ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-24  9:58                 ` David Woodhouse
2001-04-24 10:07                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-24 10:19                     ` David Woodhouse
2001-04-24 10:35                     ` Christoph Rohland
2001-04-24 10:54                       ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-24 12:51                         ` David Woodhouse
2001-04-24 13:34                         ` Christoph Rohland
2001-04-24 16:52                           ` David L. Parsley
2001-05-05  7:48                             ` [Patch] inline symlinks for tmpfs Christoph Rohland
2001-05-04 19:17                           ` [Patch] encapsulate shmem access to shmem_inode_info Christoph Rohland
     [not found]                             ` <3AF405FC.11D37FEB@bellsouth.net>
2001-05-06 13:58                               ` [Resend] Collection of tmpfs patches Christoph Rohland
2001-04-24 16:04                         ` Can't read SCSI TAPE Masaki Tsuji
2001-04-24 18:36                         ` hundreds of mount --bind mountpoints? Andreas Dilger
2001-04-24 18:49                           ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-24 19:11                             ` Andreas Dilger
2001-04-24 22:01                             ` Ingo Oeser
2001-04-24 21:59                 ` Trond Myklebust
2001-04-24 22:09                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-24 22:31                   ` Trond Myklebust
2001-04-23 21:19           ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-23 22:42             ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-04-23 22:49             ` Richard Gooch [this message]
2001-04-23 23:07               ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-23 23:24                 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-23 23:13               ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-24  6:33           ` Christoph Rohland
2001-04-23 14:08   ` David L. Parsley
2001-04-23 14:14     ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-24  0:16 Ed Tomlinson
2001-04-24  3:56 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-04-24 10:01   ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-24 13:27     ` Erik Mouw
2001-04-24 18:47       ` Andreas Dilger
2001-04-24 18:52         ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-24 20:45         ` Erik Mouw
2001-04-25  7:25         ` Christoph Rohland
2001-04-25 18:39     ` Andreas Dilger
2001-04-25 18:47       ` Alexander Viro

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