From: Jesse Pollard <pollard@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil>
To: tim@tjansen.de, Dan Kegel <dank@kegel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: /proc format (was Device Registry (DevReg) Patch 0.2.0)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:37:06 -0500 (CDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200104251937.OAA27702@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <01042520555600.00849@cookie>
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>
> On Wednesday 25 April 2001 19:10, you wrote:
> > The command
> > more foo/* foo/*/*
> > will display the values in the foo subtree nicely, I think.
>
> Unfortunately it displays only the values. Dumping numbers and strings
> without knowing their meaning (and probably not even the order) is not very
> useful.
>
> > Better to factor the XML part out to a userspace library...
>
> But the one-value per file approach is MORE work. It would be less work to
> create XML and factor out the directory structure in user-space :)
> Devreg collects its data from the drivers, each driver should contribute the
> information that it can provide about the device.
> Printing a few values in XML format using the functions from xmlprocfs is as
> easy as writing
> proc_printf(fragment, "<usb:topology port=\"%d\" portnum=\"%d\"/>\n",
> get_portnum(usbdev), usbdev->maxchild);
>
> Extending the devreg output with driver-specific data means registering a
> callback function that prints the driver's data. The driver should use its
> own XML namespace, so whatever the driver adds will not break any
> (well-written) user-space applications. The data is created on-demand, so the
> values can be dynamic and do not waste any space when devreg is not used.
>
> The code is easy to read and not larger than a solution that creates static
> /proc entries, and holding the data completely static would take much more
> memory. And it takes less code than a solution that would create the values
> in /proc dynamically because this would mean one callback per file or a
> complicated way to specify several values with a single callback.
Personally, I think
proc_printf(fragment, "%d %d",get_portnum(usbdev), usbdev->maxchild);
(or the string "dddd ddd" with d representing a digit)
is shorter (and faster) to parse with
fscanf(input,"%d %d",&usbdev,&maxchild);
Than it would be to try parsing
<usb:topology port="ddddd" portnum="dddd">
with an XML parser.
Sorry - XML is good for some things. It is not designed to be a
interface language between a kernel and user space.
I am NOT in favor of "one file per value", but structured data needs
to be written in a reasonable, concise manner. XML is intended for
communication between disparate systems in an exreemly precise manner
to allow some self documentation to be included when the communication
fails.
Even Lisp S expressions are easier :-)
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Jesse I Pollard, II
Email: pollard@navo.hpc.mil
Any opinions expressed are solely my own.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-04-25 19:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-04-25 17:10 Device Registry (DevReg) Patch 0.2.0 Dan Kegel
2001-04-25 18:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-04-25 18:55 ` /proc format (was Device Registry (DevReg) Patch 0.2.0) Tim Jansen
2001-04-25 19:19 ` Dan Kegel
2001-04-25 23:09 ` Tim Jansen
2001-04-25 19:37 ` Jesse Pollard [this message]
2001-04-25 20:08 ` Dan Kegel
2001-04-25 20:40 ` Tim Jansen
2001-04-25 21:16 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-04-25 21:50 ` J . A . Magallon
2001-04-25 21:58 ` Doug McNaught
2001-04-25 22:03 ` J . A . Magallon
2001-04-25 22:24 ` Marko Kreen
2001-04-25 22:42 ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-25 22:24 ` Mark Hahn
2001-04-26 14:06 ` Tim Jansen
2001-04-25 22:46 ` Tim Jansen
[not found] <200104252056.PAA44995@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil>
2001-04-25 21:10 ` Dan Kegel
2001-04-26 1:09 Dan Kegel
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