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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>,
	"Grover, Andrew" <andrew.grover@intel.com>,
	"'John Fremlin'" <chief@bandits.org>,
	"'Simon Richter'"
	<Simon.Richter@phobos.fachschaften.tu-muenchen.de>,
	"Acpi-PM (E-mail)"
	<linux-power@phobos.fachschaften.tu-muenchen.de>,
	"'Pavel Machek'" <pavel@suse.cz>,
	Andreas Ferber <aferber@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Let init know user wants to shutdown [linux-power] [linux-pm-devel] [linux-kernel-mailing-list] [some-other-list]
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:58:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010427125845.C13099@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15080.40123.543633.854889@pizda.ninka.net> <4148FEAAD879D311AC5700A0C969E89006CDDD9F@orsmsx35.jf.intel.com> <15080.40123.543633.854889@pizda.ninka.net> <17244.988362192@redhat.com>
In-Reply-To: <17244.988362192@redhat.com>; from dwmw2@infradead.org on Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 10:03:12AM +0100

Hi!

> > You can break the whole power management problem down to "here are the
> > levels of low-power provided by the hardware, here are the idleness
> > triggers that may be monitored".  That's it, nothing more.
> > This is powerful enough to do all the things you could want a pm layer
> > to do:
> >
> >	1) CPU's have been in their idle threads for X percent of
> >	   of the past measurement quantum, half clock the processors.
> >
> >	2) The user has hit the "sleep" trigger, spin down the disks,
> >	   reduce clock the cpus, bus, PCI controller and PCI devices.
> 
> Often the 'sleep trigger' is an _absence_ of activity rather than anything
> explicit like a button being pressed. You need inactivity timers, and events
> which _reset_ those timers, on triggers like keyboard/touchscreen/serial
> input, etc. 

I believe that at least thermal managment should be done in
kernelspace. You do not want to overheat your cpu because you
accidentally killed powerd, right?
								Pavel
-- 
The best software in life is free (not shareware)!		Pavel
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      reply	other threads:[~2001-04-27 11:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-04-18 22:52 Let init know user wants to shutdown Grover, Andrew
2001-04-26 22:10 ` David S. Miller
2001-04-27  9:03 ` Let init know user wants to shutdown [linux-power] [linux-pm-devel] [linux-kernel-mailing-list] [some-other-list] David Woodhouse
2001-04-27 10:58   ` Pavel Machek [this message]

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