From: Richard Gooch <rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Rogier Wolff <R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
volodya@mindspring.com, Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>,
Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] SMP race in ext2 - metadata corruption.
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 12:20:40 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200105041820.f44IKec11204@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105041015520.521-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
In-Reply-To: <200105041140.NAA03391@cave.bitwizard.nl> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105041015520.521-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
Linus Torvalds writes:
> Now, if you want to speed up accesses, there are things you can
> do. You can lay out the filesystem in the access order - trace the
> IO accesses at bootup ("which file, which offset, which metadata
> block?") and lay out the blocks of the files in exactly the right
> order. Then you will get linear reads _without_ doing any "dd" at
> all.
A year ago I came up with an alternative approach for cache warming,
but I see that it wouldn't work with our current infrastructure.
However, maybe there is still a way to use the basic technique. If so,
please make suggestions.
The idea I had (motivated by the desire to eliminate random disc
seeks, which is the limiting factor in how fast my boxes boot) was:
- init(8) issues an ioctl(2) on the root FS block device which turns
on recording of block reads (it records block numbers)
- at the end of the bootup process, init(8) issues another ioctl(2) to
grab the buffered block numbers, and turn off recording
- init(8) then sorts this list in ascending order and saves the result
in a file
- next boot, init(8) checks the file, and if it exists, opens the root
FS block device and reads in each block listed in the file. The
effect is to warm the buffer cache extremely quickly. The head will
move in one direction, grabbing data as it flys by. I expect this
will take around 1 second
- init(8) now continues the boot process (starting the magic ioctl(2)
again so as to get a fresh list of blocks, in case something has
changed)
- booting is now super fast, thanks to no disc activity.
The advantage of this scheme over blindly reading the first 50 MB is
that it only reads in what you *need*, and thus will work better on
low memory systems. It's also useful for other applications, not just
speeding up the boot process.
However, doing an ioctl(2) on the block device won't help. So the
question is, where to add the hook? One possibility is the FS, and
record inum,bnum pairs. But of course we don't have a way of accessing
via inum in user-space. So that's no good. Besides, we want to get
block numbers on the block device, because that's the only meaningful
number to resort.
So, what, then? Some kind of hook on the page cache? Ideas?
Regards,
Richard....
Permanent: rgooch@atnf.csiro.au
Current: rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca
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Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-04-26 15:45 Alexander Viro
2001-04-26 18:12 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-26 18:24 ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-26 19:00 ` Chris Mason
2001-04-26 18:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-04-26 19:08 ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-26 19:17 ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-26 20:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-26 19:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-26 19:34 ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-26 19:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-26 19:55 ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-26 20:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-04-26 20:21 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-26 20:49 ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-26 21:07 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-26 23:25 ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-27 0:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-27 0:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-04-27 0:35 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-26 21:13 ` Andrzej Krzysztofowicz
2001-04-27 18:02 ` LA Walsh
2001-04-27 18:17 ` dek_ml
2001-04-27 7:58 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-04-27 13:23 ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-27 14:32 ` Ville Herva
2001-04-27 16:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-04-27 19:22 ` Shane Wegner
2001-04-28 4:55 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-04-28 10:05 ` Jens Axboe
2001-04-27 14:29 ` Andi Kleen
2001-05-03 6:23 ` volodya
2001-05-03 9:29 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-03 17:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-04 11:40 ` Rogier Wolff
2001-05-04 11:56 ` Jens Axboe
2001-05-04 15:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-04 17:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-05 3:18 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-06 0:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-06 2:14 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-06 2:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-06 3:00 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-06 3:15 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-06 3:32 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-06 3:59 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-06 12:47 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-06 19:46 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-06 20:58 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-07 4:08 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-07 18:42 ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-11 14:54 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-18 14:46 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-11 20:00 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-06 3:38 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-06 3:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-04 12:15 ` Marc SCHAEFER
2001-05-04 17:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-04 17:39 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-04 17:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-04 18:29 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-04 19:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-05 11:20 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-05-05 17:11 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-04 21:11 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-04 21:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-04 18:20 ` Richard Gooch [this message]
2001-05-04 18:35 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-04 18:49 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-04 19:15 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-04 19:36 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-04 19:58 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-04 20:04 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-04 19:04 ` Jens Axboe
2001-05-05 13:52 ` Rogier Wolff
2001-05-05 18:12 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-08 13:46 ` volodya
2001-05-09 10:30 ` Helge Hafting
2001-04-26 20:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-26 20:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-26 20:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-04-26 21:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-26 20:42 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-04-26 20:55 ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-27 11:43 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-04-26 19:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0104270953280.2067-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
2001-04-27 17:36 ` Jeff Garzik
[not found] ` <3AE9A69B.D11F0BBD@evision-ventures.com>
2001-04-28 8:31 ` Matthias Urlichs
2001-04-28 13:20 ` Olaf Titz
2001-04-30 8:47 ` Neil Conway
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