From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 9 May 2001 08:39:33 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 9 May 2001 08:39:23 -0400 Received: from sleeper.apana.org.au ([129.78.226.233]:17424 "HELO sleeper.apana.org.au") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Wed, 9 May 2001 08:39:08 -0400 Subject: Re: ECN: Volunteers needed To: hadi@cyberus.ca (jamal) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 21:44:37 +1000 (EST) Cc: netdev@oss.sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-net@vger.rutgers.edu, floyd@aciri.org (Sally Floyd), kk@teraoptic.com, jitu@aciri.org In-Reply-To: from "jamal" at May 08, 2001 10:31:23 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL0pre8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010509114437.AD213709E@sleeper.apana.org.au> From: matthew@sleeper.apana.org.au (Matthew Geier) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > This is to solicit volunteers who will help removing the remaining cruft. > Some vendors (special positive mention goes to CISCO) have released > patches which are unfortunately not being propagated by some of the > site owners. > Help is needed to contact these site owners and politely using a standard > email ask them that their site was non-conformant. I tried to get my local bank to fix their internet banking service about a month ago. I ran into a 'brick wall'. They only support Windows and MacOS, since neither currently implement ECN, they don't have a problem :-( The only answer I got is 'we don't support Linux'. The operator tried to find some one interested in the network, but the answer was always the same. 'We don't support.....' They actually suggested I 'upgrade' my browser at one point! Their service actually works perfectly with Netscape and Linux 2.4.x (as long as ECN is disabled).