From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 11 May 2001 13:11:32 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 11 May 2001 13:11:22 -0400 Received: from zmailer.org ([194.252.70.162]:28423 "EHLO zmailer.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 11 May 2001 13:11:05 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 20:10:56 +0300 From: Matti Aarnio To: Byron Albert Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: test -please disregard Message-ID: <20010511201056.J5947@mea-ext.zmailer.org> In-Reply-To: <3AFBFB7B.D8A91364@internet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3AFBFB7B.D8A91364@internet.com>; from balbert@internet.com on Fri, May 11, 2001 at 10:47:23AM -0400 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 10:47:23AM -0400, Byron Albert wrote: > Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 10:47:23 -0400 > From: Byron Albert > To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > Subject: test -please disregard > > I have not recived mail from the list for more than a day just a test > ..... I find the logic of these "test - please disregard" emails weird.. You definitely want list-owners attention, perhaps Postmasters... If somebody doesn't receive email from vger's linux-kernel for few HOURS, there is either something wrong in the systems(*), or the recipient has been removed for some reason. *) "systems" include vger itself (it has died this week alone 4-5 times), network connectivity from vger to you, and your local email systems. If http://vger.kernel.org/ answers, vger *is* operational, and its email system should be operational too -- or then myself or DaveM are just doing something to it. The case at hand: A burst of rejections from your service ISP: May 7 18:42:54 vger smtp[2973]: S136669AbREGV1F: to=, delay=01:15:49, xdelay=00:10:03, mailer=smtp, relay=natasha.iworld.com ([63.95.15.6|25|199.183.24.194|4643]), stat=error2 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown May 7 18:45:22 vger smtp[2973]: S136668AbREGU70: to=, delay=01:45:56, xdelay=00:02:28, mailer=smtp, relay=natasha.iworld.com ([63.95.15.6|25|199.183.24.194|4643]), stat=deferred remote hung up on us while 1 responses missing I could bet that the beast did run out of some critical resources, and it shows the result like this. It *really* sucks... Of course the linux-kernel-owner receives *only* the "stat=error*" cases; you could say "distilled bad news" -- even if only one or two failure cases out hundreds of successfull, we may still think that the address just became nonexistent... /Matti Aarnio -- vger's co-postmaster ; reach us at: postmaster@vger.kernel.org