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From: Jesse Pollard <pollard@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil>
To: root@mauve.demon.co.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Switching Kernels without Rebooting?
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 07:54:10 -0500 (CDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200107121254.HAA89768@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200107121211.NAA10270@mauve.demon.co.uk>

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> 
> > 
> > On Wed, 11 Jul 2001, C. Slater wrote:
> > >Would anyone else like to point out some other task somewhat related 
> > >and have me do it? :-)
> > >
> > >> > Before you even try switching kernels, first implement a process
> > >> > checkpoint/restart. The process must be resumed after a boot
> > >> > using the same
> > >> > kernel, with all I/O resumed. Now get it accepted into the kernel.
> > >> 
> > >> Hear, hear!  That would be a useful feature, maybe not network servers, 
> > >> but for pure number crunching apps it would save people having to write 
> > >> all the state saving and recovery that is needed now for long term 
> > >> computations.
> > >
> > >Get a computer with hibernation support. That's just about what it is.
> > 
> > Bzzzt wrong anser. Hibernation stops the entire kernel. checkpoint restart
> > stops processes, saves the entire state of the process. hibernation
> > is just halt the processor.
> 
> Hibernation may not be.
> I've just suspended to disk after the list line, pulled the power supplies,
> taken the RAM chip out, shorted the pins to make really sure, then powered
> back up.
> Everything just resumed fine.
> 
> All I'd need to do kernel migration is a quick vi of the
> disk file.
> 
> (well, almost)

That sounds more like a memory dump to disk, and reload after power restored.
Either that or possibly a separate power supply for RAM (something like a
trickle discharge capacitor; I've read that some capacitors can hold a charge
for about 3 days. Whether that would work for a large RAM or not, I have no
idea).

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Jesse I Pollard, II
Email: pollard@navo.hpc.mil

Any opinions expressed are solely my own.

  reply	other threads:[~2001-07-12 12:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-07-12  1:03 Torrey Hoffman
2001-07-12  1:24 ` C. Slater
2001-07-12 10:07   ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-12 12:11     ` Ian Stirling
2001-07-12 12:54       ` Jesse Pollard [this message]
2001-07-12 14:15         ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-07-12 23:21           ` swsusp [was Re: Switching Kernels without Rebooting?] Pavel Machek
2001-07-12 23:17   ` Switching Kernels without Rebooting? Pavel Machek
2001-07-12 20:47 ` Wilfried Weissmann
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-07-13  1:11 tas
2001-07-13  3:45 ` Ian Stirling
2001-07-12 15:32 Jesse Pollard
2001-07-12 12:23 Jesse Pollard
2001-07-12 14:55 ` Ralf Baechle
2001-07-12  4:48 Frank Davis
2001-07-12  5:08 ` John Alvord
2001-07-13  9:10   ` Chuck Hemker
     [not found] <994895240.21189@whiskey.enposte.net>
2001-07-12  0:10 ` Stuart Lynne
2001-07-11  9:52 David Balazic
2001-07-11 10:08 ` Laramie Leavitt
2001-07-11 19:12   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-07-11 15:19 ` C. Slater
     [not found] <NOEJJDACGOHCKNCOGFOMOEKECGAA.davids@webmaster.com>
2001-07-10 20:43 ` C. Slater
2001-07-11  3:50   ` FORT David
2001-07-11  9:10   ` Helge Hafting
2001-07-11 15:41     ` C. Slater
2001-07-12 10:16       ` Helge Hafting
2001-07-11 22:12     ` Paul Jakma
2001-07-11 22:14       ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-11 22:36         ` C. Slater
2001-07-11 23:44           ` Andreas Dilger
2001-07-12  1:17             ` C. Slater
2001-07-12 15:39               ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-12 16:23                 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-07-12 17:37                   ` Mike Borrelli
2001-07-12 18:05                   ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-13 10:07                     ` Pau Aliagas
2001-07-12 18:48                   ` Chris Friesen
2001-07-12 10:12             ` Ralf Baechle
2001-07-12 15:32           ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-11 22:36         ` David Schwartz
2001-07-11 22:46       ` Kip Macy
2001-07-11 23:02         ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-12  0:31         ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-12  1:10           ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-11 23:36       ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-07-12  7:23       ` Kai Henningsen
2001-07-12 10:05         ` Helge Hafting
2001-07-12 17:58         ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-13  6:50         ` Kai Henningsen
2001-07-12  7:23       ` Ville Herva
2001-07-10 18:42 C. Slater
2001-07-10 18:50 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-10 21:11 ` Jesper Juhl

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