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From: Massimo Dal Zotto <dz@cs.unitn.it>
To: Craig Small <csmall@eye-net.com.au>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, reiserfs-dev@namesys.com
Subject: Re: strange problem with reiserfs and /proc fs
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 09:48:20 +0200 (MEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200107290748.f6T7mKj7009629@dizzy.dz.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010729171209.D13366@eye-net.com.au> "from Craig Small at Jul 29, 2001 05:12:09 pm"

> On Sat, Jul 28, 2001 at 10:04:05PM +0200, Massimo Dal Zotto wrote:
> > I've found a strange problem with reiserfs. In some situations it interferes
> > with the /proc filesystem and makes all processes unreadable to top. After
> > a few seconds the situation returns normal. To verify the problem try the
> > following procedure:
> Have to be one of the strangest bugs I've seen.  Makes be a bit lucky
> that reiser will oops on my machine so I cannot use it...
> I have also passed this bug onto the procps author, who may be able to
> shed a bit more light on the problem.
> 
> > 3)	type a few characters and save the file with C-x C-s. After the
> > 	file is saved top will show 0 processes. Sometimes it will show
> > 	only a few processes for an istant and then nothing. Sometimes
> > 	it will work fine. After a few seconds the missing processes
> > 	will show again. Modifying and saving the file again will show
> > 	the same behavior.
> When you say top prints nothing do you mean it only prints the header
> and no processes in the list?  Does this problem happen with any other
> program, say vi, or only in emacs?  Does ps have this bevhavour?

It prints the header with 0 processes and 100% idle:

 09:40:24 up 24 min, 10 users,  load average: 0.16, 0.26, 0.34
0 processes: 0 sleeping, 0 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states:   0.0% user,   0.0% system,   0.0% nice,  100.0% idle
Mem:    126332K total,   121072K used,     5260K free,    38592K buffers
Swap:   257032K total,    73508K used,   183524K free,    24860K cached

I have been able to reproduce the bug only with emacs. Another thing I have
discovered is that if there is an intense disk activity (for example a find)
the problem disappears, so the fact that it disappears by itself after a
few seconds is probably caused by some other process accessing the disk.
Also ps shows the same behavior:

$ ps aux
USER       PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND
$

> 
> > In the attachments you will find two traces of the running top, one behaving
> > normally and one exhibiting the problem, and my kernel config.
> The interesting difference is that the good program does
> stat64,open,read,close...
> But the bad program does is just stat64.
> I get 96 stat64s for both programs in that loop.
> 
> So obviously top doesn't like whatever stat64 is telling it.
> Looking at the code (in readproc() in proc/readproc.c if anyone is
> interested) I cannot see much that should upset it.  We know stat is
> returning 0 so that is ok, about the only other thing is a alloc.
> 
> If you like, you can submit this as a bug report into the Debian Bug
> Tracking System, but I suspect there is a kernel problem here giving
> wierd stat returns for proc.

I haven't submitted a bug because I'am not sure it is a procps problem.

-- 
Massimo Dal Zotto

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  reply	other threads:[~2001-07-29 13:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200107282004.f6SK455d002773@dizzy.dz.net>
2001-07-29  7:12 ` Craig Small
2001-07-29  7:48   ` Massimo Dal Zotto [this message]
2001-07-30  9:12   ` Massimo Dal Zotto

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