Hi, I sometimes try to mount a CDROM drive, and mount hangs hard, in 'D' state as specified in ps listing. Sometimes I do df, and that hangs as well. kill -9 doesn't work on those proggies. That is with 2.4.3 and 2.4.7 kernels. Shouldn't they fail if cdrom is dysfunctional? thx, p. [pavel@calgary pavel]$ lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX Host bridge (rev 03) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX AGP bridge (rev 03) 00:04.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02) 00:04.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) 00:04.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) 00:04.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02) 00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone] (rev 30) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X (rev 5c) -- Take out your recursive cannons and shoot! 110461387 http://gpg.md5.ca http://perlpimp.com