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From: klink@clouddancer.com (Colonel)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: VM nuisance
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 17:01:36 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010813000136.8BC4A78628@mail.clouddancer.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9l5v9a$ha9$1@ns1.clouddancer.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0108121506100.18332-100000@druid.if.uj.edu.pl> <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0108102347050.3530-100000@imladris.rielhome.conectiva> <9l5v9a$ha9$1@ns1.clouddancer.com>

In clouddancer.list.kernel, you wrote:
>
>> No.  The problem is that whenever I change something to
>> the OOM killer I get flamed.
>>
>> Both by the people for whom the OOM killer kicks in too
>> early and by the people for whom the OOM killer now doesn't
>> kick in.
>>
>> I haven't got the faintest idea how to come up with an OOM
>> killer which does the right thing for everybody.
>
>How about adding some sort of per-process priority (i.e. a la nice) which
>would determine the order in which they would be OOMed? Then we could
>safely run X with a kigh KillMe and Netscape with an even higher KillMe
>and we would probably avoid the something useing too much memory let's
>kill root's shell...
>
>[i.e. if a lower KillMe proc runs out of memory we kill off the process
>with the highest KillMe using most mem and can safely give this mem to the
>proc which just ran out]


Ah, so you kill X because of the high KillMe you've assigned?  I can
see that this idea quickly leads to dependecies and their problems (if
I kill X, I therefore have killed all Netscapes too...  but if I kill
a dhcp, without killing Netscape first, netscape is useless ... blah
blah blah).


If there is insufficient memory for a process, tell it to sit on it
and spin, especially since : "I haven't got the faintest idea..."
Stop trying to make up for the sysadmin bozo.


-- 
Windows 2001: "I'm sorry Dave ...  I'm afraid I can't do that."


  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-08-13  0:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <9li6sf$h5$1@ns1.clouddancer.com>
2001-08-11  1:30 ` David Ford
2001-08-11  2:48   ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-11  2:59     ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-08-11  4:17       ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-11  4:40         ` David Ford
2001-08-11  4:46           ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-11  4:41         ` safemode
2001-08-11  5:00         ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-08-11 13:13       ` Alan Cox
2001-08-11 15:39         ` David Ford
2001-08-11  3:50     ` safemode
2001-08-12 13:09     ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2001-08-12 13:45       ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-16 23:29         ` Justin A
2001-08-17  0:06           ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-08-17  0:24             ` Justin A
2001-08-17  2:54               ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-08-12 23:05       ` Dan Mann
2001-08-13  0:01     ` Colonel [this message]
2001-08-13 14:32     ` dean gaudet
2001-08-13 19:47       ` Brian
2001-08-14  8:27       ` Helge Hafting
2001-08-17 13:34         ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-08-17 17:29           ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-14 14:00   ` "VM watchdog"? [was Re: VM nuisance] Pavel Machek
2001-08-16 22:24     ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-08-17  1:26       ` David Ford
2001-08-17  1:41         ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-08-17  9:04         ` Colonel
2001-08-17 20:38           ` David Ford
     [not found] <20010811035112.59EC438D01@perninha.conectiva.com.br>
2001-08-11  3:52 ` VM nuisance Rik van Riel
     [not found] <no.id>
2001-08-11 16:45 ` Alan Cox

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