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From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: Mike Galbraith <mikeg@wen-online.de>,
	Frank Dekervel <Frank.dekervel@student.kuleuven.ac.Be>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.4.8/2.4.9 VM problems
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 23:40:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010820213425Z16360-32383+586@humbolt.nl.linux.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108201609190.538-100000@freak.distro.conectiva>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108201609190.538-100000@freak.distro.conectiva>

On August 20, 2001 09:12 pm, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> > On August 20, 2001 09:14 pm, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > > We need to get the pages 'actioned' (the only thing that really matters)
> > > off of the dirty list so that they are out of the equation.. that I'm
> > > sure of.
> > 
> > Well, except when the page is only going to be used once, or not at all (in 
> > the case of an unused readahead page).  Otherwise, no, we don't want to have 
> > frequently used pages or pages we know nothing about dropping of the inactive 
> > queue into the bit-bucket.  There's more work to do to make that come true.
> 
> Find riel's message with topic "VM tuning" to linux-mm, then take a look
> at the 4th aging option.
> 
> That one _should_ be able to make us remove all kinds of "hacks" to do
> drop behind, and also it should keep hot/warm active memory _in cache_
> for more time. 

I looked at it yesterday.  The problem is, it loses the information about *how*
a page is used: pagecache lookup via readahead has different implications than
actual usage.  The other thing that looks a little problematic, which Rik also
pointed out, is the potential long lag before the inactive page is detected.
A lot of IO can take place in this time, filling up the active list with pages
that we could have evicted much earlier.

--
Daniel

  reply	other threads:[~2001-08-20 21:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-08-17 13:10 Frank Dekervel
2001-08-19 21:00 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-19 21:13   ` 2.4.8/2.4.9 problem Andrey Nekrasov
2001-08-20 21:20     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-23 10:04       ` Andrey Nekrasov
2001-08-23 14:46         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-23 15:39         ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-08-23 18:05           ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-20 15:40   ` 2.4.8/2.4.9 VM problems Mike Galbraith
2001-08-20 17:10     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-20 19:14       ` Mike Galbraith
2001-08-20 20:34         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-20 19:12           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-08-20 21:40             ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2001-08-20 20:08               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-08-20 20:16                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-08-20 22:54                   ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-20 21:50                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-08-20 23:29                       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-20 22:05                         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-08-20 23:54                           ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-21  1:55                             ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-21  3:51                               ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-21  3:58                                 ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-21  4:11                                   ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-21  4:08                                     ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-20 21:44               ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-20 22:47                 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-21  4:52           ` Mike Galbraith
2001-08-21  5:14             ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-20 16:13 Benjamin Redelings I
2001-08-20 17:02 ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-20 20:13   ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-20 19:32 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-20 21:38   ` Rik van Riel

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