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From: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
To: jes@sunsite.dk
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Qlogic/FC firmware
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 06:58:09 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010821.065809.102572680.davem@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d3wv3x8qro.fsf@lxplus015.cern.ch>
In-Reply-To: <d3elq5a6au.fsf@lxplus015.cern.ch> <20010821.063900.112292626.davem@redhat.com> <d3wv3x8qro.fsf@lxplus015.cern.ch>

   From: Jes Sorensen <jes@sunsite.dk>
   Date: 21 Aug 2001 15:51:55 +0200
   
   The much cleaner way to solve this problem is to write a user space
   tool to upgrade the image in the flash ram on the QL with your latest
   favorite image found at www.qlogic.com. It's a 128KB image, you can
   write directly to the flash in two banks by setting the read/write bit
   and setting the 2nd bank bit for the last 64KB.

When the Qlogic,FC sees a master abort, the firmware is essentially
cleared to zero.

This is what was happening to me.

Now what if I cannot boot now because this was on my root block
device.  I cannot even go back to a previous rev of the kernel
I was working on to get it back.

If you're going to say "put the user thing in initrd", I'm going to
say "bite me".  I build a static kernel with no initrd and that is how
I'd like it to stay.  It is one thing to do initrd firmware loading
for devices not necessary for booting and mounting root, that is
acceptable, this isn't.

Jes, I think your arguments are wrong.  I think the driver should
have been removed in whole and replaced with something like this
in qlogicfc.c so everyone would know what the problem is:

/* This driver was removed due to licensing in the firmware
 * which conflicts with the GPL.  The driver is only really
 * fully functional with the firmware included, so instead of
 * breaking half of the qlogic/fc users out there we removed
 * this driver outright.
 */

I would have never sent out the email which started this thread
had this been done.  I would not have questioned anything, and
would have instead said "unfortunate" to myself and left it at
that.

Later,
David S. Miller
davem@redhat.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-08-21 13:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-08-21 12:58 David S. Miller
2001-08-21 13:31 ` Jes Sorensen
2001-08-21 13:44   ` Alan Cox
2001-08-21 13:45   ` David S. Miller
2001-08-21 13:39 ` David S. Miller
2001-08-21 13:51   ` Jes Sorensen
2001-08-21 13:58   ` David S. Miller [this message]
2001-08-21 14:28     ` Jes Sorensen
2001-08-21 14:43     ` David S. Miller
     [not found] <no.id>
2001-08-21 14:15 ` Alan Cox
2001-08-21 14:17 ` Alan Cox
2001-08-21 14:24 ` Alan Cox
2001-08-21 14:54   ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-21 14:28 ` David S. Miller
2001-08-21 14:29 ` David S. Miller
2001-08-21 14:42   ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-21 15:30     ` Alan Cox
2001-08-21 15:49       ` christophe barbé
2001-08-21 22:45     ` Ricky Beam
2001-08-21 22:52       ` Alan Cox
2001-08-21 23:32         ` Ricky Beam
2001-08-22  0:24           ` Alan Cox
2001-08-22  0:35             ` Matthew Jacob
2001-08-22 13:15               ` Jes Sorensen
2001-08-22 15:55                 ` Matthew Jacob
2001-08-22 16:17                   ` Matthew Jacob
2001-08-22 16:22                   ` David S. Miller
2001-08-22  5:19             ` Ricky Beam
2001-08-22 10:32               ` Alan Cox
2001-08-22 13:29                 ` Ricky Beam
2001-08-22 13:49                   ` Alan Cox
2001-08-22 14:44                     ` Ricky Beam
2001-08-22 15:39                       ` Alan Cox
2001-08-22 18:46                         ` Ricky Beam
2001-08-22 19:05                           ` Alan Cox
2001-08-22 18:50                         ` David S. Miller
2001-08-22 14:07                   ` Jes Sorensen
2001-08-22 13:12               ` Jes Sorensen
2001-08-22 15:17               ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-22  6:04         ` Oliver Neukum
2001-08-22 13:17           ` Jes Sorensen
2001-08-22 14:58           ` Ricky Beam
2001-08-21 22:53       ` Matthew Jacob
2001-08-21 23:20         ` Ricky Beam
2001-08-21 22:51     ` David S. Miller
2001-08-21 14:45   ` David S. Miller
2001-08-21 14:40 ` David S. Miller
2001-08-21 14:45 ` Alan Cox
2001-08-21 14:46 ` David S. Miller
2001-08-21 14:47 ` David S. Miller
2001-08-21 15:29   ` Jes Sorensen
2001-08-21 15:26 ` Alan Cox
2001-08-21 16:39   ` Jes Sorensen
2001-08-21 18:47     ` Alan Cox
2001-08-21 18:53       ` Matthew Jacob
2001-08-21 18:56         ` Matthew Jacob
2001-08-21 18:48     ` Alan Cox
2001-08-21 16:42   ` David S. Miller
2001-08-21 17:18     ` Matthew Jacob
2001-08-22 13:08     ` Jes Sorensen

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