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From: Richard Gooch <rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca>
To: Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>
Cc: Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@transmeta.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] lazy allocation of struct block_device
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 10:16:41 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200109021616.f82GGfG16166@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0109021156050.21487-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <200109021538.f82FcAB15856@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> <Pine.GSO.4.21.0109021156050.21487-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>

Alexander Viro writes:
> 
> 
> On Sun, 2 Sep 2001, Richard Gooch wrote:
> 
> > Yep. Having to allocate/search for a device structure during open(2)
> > is insane. It's wasteful. For ext2fs you can do it in lookup(), and
> > for devfs (or similar) you can do the ideal thing: when the device
> > entry is registered with the FS (i.e. only once).
> 
> No.  We _must_ do it on ->open() for cases when it had been NULL.  Driver
> might be not there at ->lookup() time and hunting down all inodes with
> give major/minor is insanity.

Apologies. Let me clarify what I meant: it's insane to only ever
allow allocate/search during open(2).

Oh, and yeah: doing allocate/search during lookup() for ext2fs is a
bad idea. Wasn't thinking straight.

> Now, if inode had been created by the driver - sure, we create the
> association between it and <whatever>_device from the very
> beginning.

Yep. That's what I meant.

> We must support device nodes on normal filesystems.

Of course. No argument.

> Support for such beasts is there to stay.  However, we shouldn't do
> things that make allocation of new majors mandatory.  IOW, as far as
> I'm concerned solutions that do not allow "establish connection with
> foo_device upon inode creation and don't bother with device number
> for that one" are broken.

Nod.

				Regards,

					Richard....
Permanent: rgooch@atnf.csiro.au
Current:   rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-09-02 16:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-02 10:24 Andries.Brouwer
2001-09-02 11:38 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-02 12:49   ` Alan Cox
2001-09-02 15:38 ` Richard Gooch
2001-09-02 16:07   ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-02 16:16   ` Richard Gooch [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-09-02 20:05 Andries.Brouwer
2001-09-02 17:25 Andries.Brouwer
2001-09-02 18:46 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-01 20:42 Andries.Brouwer
2001-09-01 21:26 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-09-01 23:41 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-09-01 23:54 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-01 13:30 Andries.Brouwer
2001-09-01 16:26 ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-31  4:43 Alexander Viro

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