From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 6 Sep 2001 16:41:17 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 6 Sep 2001 16:41:00 -0400 Received: from spike.porcupine.org ([168.100.189.2]:54282 "EHLO spike.porcupine.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 6 Sep 2001 16:40:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH] ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug 2.4.9 and 2.2.19 In-Reply-To: "from jamal at Sep 6, 2001 04:20:39 pm" To: jamal Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 16:41:04 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Wietse Venema , Alan Cox , kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru, Matthias Andree , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-net@vger.kernel.org, netdev@oss.sgi.com X-Time-Zone: USA EST, 6 hours behind central European time X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL82 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <20010906204104.A3FBDBC06C@spike.porcupine.org> From: wietse@porcupine.org (Wietse Venema) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Please stop that BSD versus Linux drivel. Either make a constructive contribution or be silent. I don't care what API is "superior", as long as it provides me with the information that I want. Wietse jamal: > > > On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Wietse Venema wrote: > > > Alan Cox: > > > > Soldiers are marching down the street. The mother of one of those > > > > soldiers is ever so proud. All the other guys are marching out of > > > > step. Her son is the only one who does it right. > > > > > > > > That's what it looks like for a person who writes Internet software > > > > that aims to work on a wide variety of platforms. > > > > > > I think you have the metaphor wrong. The older API is a bit like the > > > cavalry charging into battle at the start of world war one. It may have been > > > how everyone did it but they guys with the "newfangled, really not how it > > > should be done, definitely not cricket" machine guns got the last laugh > > > > Keep your superiority complex out of my mailbox, thank you. > > > > Wietse, > > netlink, as a few people have pointed to you is the 'proper' way to do > things. Sure, the BSDs did it the way you love it, but linux is a > different operating system (cut the "if its not Scottish its crap > mentality"). Netlink does improve on "the way its always been done for > the last 80 years". Infact netlink has already been approved to be (at > least informational) RFC. Look at a slightly dated draft at: > http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-salim-netlink-jhshk-00.txt > Maybe you should preach to the BSDs about netlink? > > cheers, > jamal > > PS:- If you want help on writting netlink based code to achieve what you > are trying to do, just yell. Look at the source for the ip utility which > is within the iproute2 package. > >