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From: Rene Rebe <rene.rebe@gmx.net>
To: Richard Gooch <rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, andre@linux-ide.org
Subject: Re: IDE controller detection 2.4 +devfs
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 01:07:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011205010718.7c964efd.rene.rebe@gmx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200111300210.fAU2AqU06657@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca>
In-Reply-To: <20011130001138.78ab1242.rene.rebe@gmx.net> <200111300017.fAU0Hx704241@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> <20011130012752.0fd5380a.rene.rebe@gmx.net> <200111300034.fAU0YB904723@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> <20011130015538.68b09e03.rene.rebe@gmx.net> <200111300111.fAU1BLR05033@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> <20011130022637.290ad791.rene.rebe@gmx.net> <200111300210.fAU2AqU06657@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca>

Are there any new results or comments regarding this issue ??

On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:10:52 -0700
Richard Gooch <rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca> wrote:

> Rene Rebe writes:
> > On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 18:11:21 -0700
> > Richard Gooch <rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca> wrote:
> > 
> > > But it is actually predictable, isn't it? Think of it this way: the
> > > IDE subsystem reserves "slots" (host numbers) for installed hardware.
> > > If a piece of hardware is disabled in the BIOS, it doesn't mean that
> > > the slot won't be reserved.
> > 
> > It would be nice if it would be that way - se below.
> > 
> > > > (All info from my very first mail ...)
> > > > 
> > > > The other bug is: On a Athlon-600 workstation based on an Irongate
> > > > board (Asus-K7M) I have to disable the first (primarry) channel of
> > > > the onbaord IDE controller, because it has problem with the UDMA-66
> > > > mode. But when I disable this channel, Linux generates a /dev/ide/host1
> > > > entry - No host0 entry is there. Sure it works - but sucks, too!
> > > > (Generates a very unstable feeling in me ...)
> > > 
> > > The "host0" entry isn't shown, because it is disabled. But to say
> > > "when I disable this channel, Linux generates a /dev/ide/host1" isn't
> > > correct, and implies a problem where there isn't. The correct way to
> > > describe this is:
> > > "host0" is my primary onboard IDE controller. It might not appear if I
> > > disable it.
> > > "host1" is my secondary onboard IDE controller. It has the same name
> > > whether or not I disable the primary.
> > 
> > No!!!! On the Althon box:
> > - nothing disabled in BIOS:
> > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/ - on-board primary channel
> > /deV/ide/host0/bus1/ - on-board secondary channel
> > 
> > - when I disable the primary channel I get this:
> > /dev/ide/host1/bus1/ - on-board secondary channel
> > 
> > So as you can see it moves!! From host0 to host1!
> 
> Oh, fuck! Now I see why you're complaining. Yeah, that is busted. I
> don't know why this happens. It may be due to some deep and subtle
> workings of the IDE code.
> 
> Andre: any idea why this is happening?
> 
> > > And this is a Feature[tm]. It means that tomorrow when a shiny new
> > > drive arrives, you can plug it into your primary channel and enable
> > > the channel in the BIOS. You can then boot without having to fix your
> > > /etc/fstab, because /dev/ide/host1 is still pointing to the same
> > > devices.
> > 
> > Yes that is a really cool advantage I now for months (over a year!)!
> > But here is the next example again:
> > 
> > The K6 server (on-board ALI-Aladin-5 + PCI-Card Promisse controller):
> > 
> > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/ - on-board primary channel
> > /dev/ide/host0/bus1/ - on-board secondary channel
> > /dev/ide/host2/bus0/ - Promisse primary channel
> > /dev/ide/host2/bus1/ - Promisse secondarychannel
> > 
> > So where is host1 ??????
> 
> Good question. I wonder what's taking up the "host1" slot?
> 
> 				Regards,
> 
> 					Richard....
> Permanent: rgooch@atnf.csiro.au
> Current:   rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca


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  reply	other threads:[~2001-12-05  0:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-11-29 23:11 Rene Rebe
2001-11-30  0:17 ` Richard Gooch
2001-11-30  0:34   ` Richard Gooch
2001-11-30  1:11     ` Richard Gooch
2001-11-30  2:10       ` Richard Gooch
2001-11-30  0:27 ` Rene Rebe
2001-11-30  0:55   ` Rene Rebe
2001-11-30  1:26     ` Rene Rebe
2001-12-05  0:07       ` Rene Rebe [this message]
2001-11-30  5:58   ` Greg KH
2001-11-30  7:56   ` Rene Rebe
2001-11-30  8:16     ` Greg KH

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