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From: "Dieter Nützel" <Dieter.Nuetzel@hamburg.de>
To: george anzinger <george@mvista.com>
Cc: Martin Knoblauch <knobi@sirius-cafe.de>,
	Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>,
	Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>,
	Linux Kernel List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Scheduler issue 1, RT tasks ...
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 20:02:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011229190226Z285236-18284+8993@vger.kernel.org> (raw)

Martin Knoblauch wrote:
> 
> > Re: [RFC] Scheduler issue 1, RT tasks ...
> >
> > >
> > > Right, that was my question. George says, in your words, "for better
> >
> > > standards compliancy ..." and I want to know why you guys think
> > that.
> >
> > The thought was that if someone need RT tasks he probably need a very
> > low latency and so the idea that by applying global preemption decisions
> > would lead to a better compliancy. But i'll be happy to ear that this is
> > false anyway ...
> >
> 
>  without wanting to start a RT flame-fest, what do people really want
> when they talk about RT in this [Linux] context:
> 
> - very low latency
> - deterministic latency ("never to exceed")
> - both
> - something completely different
> 
> All of the above from time to time and user to user.  That is, some
> folks want one or more of the above, some folks want more, some less. 
> What is really up?  Well they have a job to do that requires certain
> things.  Different jobs require different capabilities.  It is hard to
> say that any given system will do a reasonably complex job with out
> testing.  For example we may have the required latency but find the
> system fails because, to get the latency, we preempted another task that
> was (and so still is) in the middle of updating something we need to
> complete the job.

So George what direction should I try for some tests?
2.4.17 plus your and Robert's preempt plus lock-break?
Add your high-res-timers, rtscheduler or both?
Do they apply against 2.4.17/2.4.18-pre1?
A combination of the above plus Davide's BMQS?

I ask because my MP3/Ogg-Vorbis hiccup during dbench isn't solved anyway.
Running 2.4.17 + preempt + lock-break + 10_vm-21 (AA).
Some wisdom?

Thank you for all your work and
			Happy New Year

-Dieter
-- 
Dieter Nützel
Graduate Student, Computer Science

University of Hamburg
Department of Computer Science
@home: Dieter.Nuetzel@hamburg.de

             reply	other threads:[~2001-12-29 19:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-12-29 19:02 Dieter Nützel [this message]
2001-12-29 21:00 ` Andrew Morton
2001-12-29 22:24 ` Davide Libenzi
     [not found] <200112291907.LAA25639@messenger.mvista.com>
2001-12-30 10:01 ` george anzinger
2001-12-30 19:54   ` Dieter Nützel
2001-12-31 13:56     ` george anzinger
2002-01-01 18:55       ` Dieter Nützel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-12-28  9:45 Martin Knoblauch
2001-12-29  9:12 ` george anzinger
2001-12-20 21:11 Davide Libenzi
2001-12-20 22:25 ` george anzinger
2001-12-20 22:21   ` Momchil Velikov
2001-12-20 22:57     ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-21 17:00       ` Mike Kravetz
2001-12-21 17:19         ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-21 17:33           ` Mike Kravetz
2001-12-21 18:29             ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-24  0:18         ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-12-24  1:31           ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-24  5:33             ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-12-24 18:52               ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-27  3:01                 ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-12-27 17:41                   ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-28  0:05                     ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-12-28  0:48                       ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-20 22:36   ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-24  0:19     ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-12-24  1:20       ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-27  3:42         ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-12-27 17:48           ` Davide Libenzi

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