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From: Timothy Covell <timothy.covell@ashavan.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Frame Buffer Device Development 
	<linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>
Subject: Re: [patch] Re: Framebuffer...Why oh Why???
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 15:13:29 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200112302117.fBULHISr011887@svr3.applink.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011227195037.GA229@znex> <3C2D0D13.CB1C5683@zip.com.au> <3C2ED18D.FA550F1A@zip.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <3C2ED18D.FA550F1A@zip.com.au>

On Sunday 30 December 2001 02:34, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Andrew Morton wrote:
> > However I don't see why _any_ architecture wants framebuffer contents
> > to be included in core files.  It sounds risky.
> >

[snip]


	When X11 locks up, I can still kill it and my box lives.  When
framebuffers crash, their is no recovery save rebooting.  Back in 1995
I thought that linux VTs and X11 implemenation blew Solaris out of the
water, and now we want throw away our progress?  I'm still astounded
by the whole "oooh I can see  a penquin while I boot-up" thing?
Granted, frame buffers have usage in embedded systems, but do they
really have to be so deeply integrated??

-- 
timothy.covell@ashavan.org.

  reply	other threads:[~2001-12-30 21:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-12-27 19:50 Framebuffer, mmap(), hanging in D state, root FS unmount failure Mark J Roberts
2001-12-29  0:23 ` Andrew Morton
2001-12-30  8:34   ` [patch] " Andrew Morton
2001-12-30 21:13     ` Timothy Covell [this message]
     [not found]       ` <3C2F8727.5D4AAE21@zip.com.au>
2001-12-30 22:27         ` [patch] Re: Framebuffer...Why oh Why??? Timothy Covell
2001-12-31  1:51           ` James Simmons
2001-12-31  2:49             ` Andrew Morton
2001-12-31  3:23               ` James Simmons
2001-12-31 12:07               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-12-31 13:18                 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-31 21:53                   ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-12-31  0:19       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-31  1:54         ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " James Simmons
2001-12-31  8:03         ` gmack
2001-12-31  9:05         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-12-31 21:41         ` Rob Landley
2002-01-01  7:00           ` Werner Puschitz
2002-01-01  7:00           ` Timothy Covell
2002-01-01 10:42             ` Alan Cox
2002-01-01 20:36               ` Rob Landley
2002-01-02 11:36               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-01 14:31           ` Marius Gedminas
2002-01-03 22:26           ` Marco Ermini
2002-01-04 13:27             ` [OT] " Tommi Kyntola
2002-01-04 14:04             ` Marco Ermini
2001-12-31 21:42         ` Scott McDermott
2001-12-31 21:56           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2001-12-31 22:26             ` James Simmons
2001-12-31 22:31               ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-01-01  2:43                 ` Bill Nottingham
2002-01-01  6:15                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-01-01 18:42                   ` Joachim Steiger
2002-01-01 10:21                 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-01  0:23         ` Ken Moffat
2002-01-01  7:03           ` Timothy Covell
2001-12-31 12:10       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-01-07  6:36 Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-01-07 11:11 ` Marco Ermini

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