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From: Richard Gooch <rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
Cc: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Q: behaviour of mlockall(MCL_FUTURE) and VM_GROWSDOWN segments
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 16:45:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200201112345.g0BNjVQ13657@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3C3F4FC6.97A6A66D@zip.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <3C3F3C7F.76CCAF76@colorfullife.com> <3C3F4FC6.97A6A66D@zip.com.au>

Andrew Morton writes:
> Manfred Spraul wrote:
> > 
> > If an app has an VM_GROWS{DOWN,UP} stack and calls
> > mlockall(MCL_FUTURE|MCL_CURRENT), which pages should the kernel lock?
> > 
> > * grow the vma to the maximum size and lock all.
> > * just according to the current size.
> > 
> > What should happen if the segment is extended by more than one page
> > at once? (i.e. a function with 100 kB local variables)
> > 
> > * Just allocate the page that is needed to handle the page faults
> > * always fill holes immediately.
> > 
> > Right now segments are not grown during the mlockall syscall. Some
> > codepaths fill holes (find_extend_vma()), most don't (page fault
> > handlers)
> > 
> > What's the right thing (tm) to do?
> > I don't care which implementation is choosen, but IMHO all
> > implementations should be identical
> 
> This was a problem encountered when taking a libpthread-based
> application from 2.4.7 to 2.4.15.   It ran fine with mlockall
> under 2.4.7, but under 2.4.15 everything wedged up.   This was, I assume,
> because under 2.4.15, the many pthread stacks were fully faulted in and
> locked at mlockall() time.    We ended up just not using mlockall
> at all.
> 
> Really the 2.4.15 behaviour is correct, but undesirable.  It requires
> each thread to know apriori what its maximum stack use will be.
> (I'm assuming that there's a way of setting a thread's stack size
> in libpthread).
> 
> So in this case, the behaviour I would prefer is MCL_FUTURE for
> all vma's *except* the stack.   Stack pages should be locked
> only when they are faulted in.   Hard call.

How about controlling this with a MCL_STACK flag or some such? If
there's no One True Path[tm], leave the decision to the application.

				Regards,

					Richard....
Permanent: rgooch@atnf.csiro.au
Current:   rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-01-11 23:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-11 19:26 Manfred Spraul
2002-01-11 20:49 ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-11 23:45 ` Richard Gooch [this message]
     [not found] <3C3F3C7F.76CCAF76@colorfullife.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <3C3F4FC6.97A6A66D@zip.com.au.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-01-12  0:33   ` Andi Kleen
2002-01-12  1:04     ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-12 15:33     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-12 15:54       ` Andi Kleen
2002-01-12 16:07         ` Manfred Spraul
2002-01-12 16:17           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-12 16:14         ` Andrea Arcangeli

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