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From: Andreas Dilger <adilger@turbolabs.com>
To: Oliver Xymoron <oxymoron@waste.org>
Cc: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Juan Quintela <quintela@mandrakesoft.com>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, felix-dietlibc@fefe.de,
	andersen@codepoet.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] klibc requirements, round 2
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 20:48:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020114204830.E26688@lynx.adilger.int> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020114165849.B26688@lynx.adilger.int> <Pine.LNX.4.44.0201141921580.2836-100000@waste.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0201141921580.2836-100000@waste.org>; from oxymoron@waste.org on Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 07:26:54PM -0600

On Jan 14, 2002  19:26 -0600, Oliver Xymoron wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> > Actually, the whole point of Juan's suggestion was that you _don't_ want
> > to fsck a filesystem that is currently mounted.  There is always a
> > potential problem that fsck will change the on-disk data of the filesystem
> > in a way that is not coherent with what the kernel has in-memory, which
> > should force a system reboot before continuing (which most initscripts
> > don't do).  For ext2/ext3 this may be relatively safe (data/metadata don't
> > move around much), but reiserfsck cannot (or will not) fsck a mounted
> > filesystem at all.
> 
> Interesting point. Modulo any existing LVM brokenness, we can do this with
> a read-only snapshot and pivot_root afterwards. Alternately, a read-only
> /bootsupport or something of the sort which contains *fsck. What we don't
> want is initramfs to get big.

Err, you think putting the necessary LVM tools in initramfs (vgscan,
vgchange, lvcreate, liblvm) will be _smaller_ than e2fsck???  Your
"modulo" is also a very big one - I'd rather trust e2fsck than LVM
in my boot environment any day.

Cheers, Andreas
--
Andreas Dilger
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2resize/
http://www-mddsp.enel.ucalgary.ca/People/adilger/


  reply	other threads:[~2002-01-15  3:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-10 23:18 Greg KH
2002-01-10 22:29 ` Bjorn Wesen
2002-01-11  0:04   ` Greg KH
2002-01-11  0:44 ` Tom Rini
2002-01-11 13:31 ` Felix von Leitner
2002-01-12 12:21   ` Erik Andersen
2002-01-13  1:43     ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-13  2:10       ` Felix von Leitner
2002-01-11 21:46 ` David Lang
2002-01-12 20:16 ` Juan Quintela
2002-01-13  1:38   ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-14 17:54   ` Theodore Tso
2002-01-14 21:57     ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-01-14 23:58       ` Andreas Dilger
2002-01-15  1:26         ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-01-15  3:48           ` Andreas Dilger [this message]
2002-01-15  4:05             ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-01-15 17:28               ` Rob Landley
2002-01-16  4:01                 ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-16 17:54                   ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-01-15  0:33     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-16 18:40     ` Erik Andersen
2002-01-13  3:58 ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-11  1:50 Torrey Hoffman
2002-01-11  3:32 ` Tom Rini
2002-01-11  6:53 ` H. Peter Anvin

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