From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 14:23:03 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 14:22:57 -0500 Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com ([62.253.162.45]:20873 "EHLO mta05-svc.ntlworld.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 14:22:13 -0500 Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 19:22:13 +0000 From: Anthony Campbell To: "Stephen C. Tweedie" Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Total lockups using ext3 Message-ID: <20020202192213.GB3827@debian.local> In-Reply-To: <20020201181048.GA3104@debian.local> <20020201184123.A16610@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020201184123.A16610@redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 01 Feb 2002, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 06:10:48PM +0000, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > > They always occur when I am online, downloading. The moden stops, the > > hard disk light is on, and no key works. They never happen with 2.2.20 > > or with earlier (i.e. pre-ext3) 2.4 kernels, and they never occur on my > > laptop with any kernel, including those using ext3. > > > > Since inactivating ext3 (by changing /etc/fstab) the lockups have ceased > > to occur. > > > > I therefore conclude that the lockups are due to ext3. I can manage > > without it but would like to use it if possible. Any suggestions please? > > Doesn't sound like a filesystem problem --- if the hd remains on, it > sounds very much as if you've got something going wrong in the disk > stack, either in the ide driver or the disk itself giving up. The > fact that it always happens when the modem is on also suggests that > this is not a filesystem problem. > > Try reproducing it with a readable console enabled --- either run in > text console mode (no X), or set up a serial console and use another > machine to capture the output. "ttywatch" is excellent for monitoring > serial consoles. > > Cheers, > Stephen > I doubt it's the disk; it works perfectly without ext3, even downloading a complete kernel tarball. I'll try the text console later (though probably at the cost of yet another reboot...) Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - running Linux GNU/Debian (Windows-free zone) For an electronic book (The Assassins of Alamut), skeptical essays, and over 150 book reviews, go to: http://www.acampbell.org.uk/ Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves. [Carl Sagan]