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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@ns.caldera.de>
To: Martin.Wirth@dlr.de (Martin Wirth)
Cc: akpm@zip.com.au, torvalds@transmet.com, mingo@elte.hu,
	rml@tech9.net, nigel@nrg.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] New locking primitive for 2.5
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 19:22:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200202071822.g17IMgS14802@ns.caldera.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3C629F91.2869CB1F@dlr.de>

In article <3C629F91.2869CB1F@dlr.de> you wrote:
> The new lock uses a combination of a spinlock and a (mutex-)semaphore.
> You can lock it for short-term issues in a spin-lock mode:
>
>         combi_spin_lock(struct combilock *x)
>         combi_spin_unlock(struct combilock *x)
>
> and for longer lasting tasks in a sleeping mode by:
>
>         combi_mutex_lock(struct combilock *x)
>         combi_mutex_unlock(struct combilock *x)

I think this API is really ugly.  If both pathes actually do the same,
just with different defaults, one lock function with a flag would be
much nicer.  Also why do we need two unlock functions?

What about the following instead:

	combi_lock(struct combilock *x, int spin);
	combi_unlock(struct combilock *x);

> If a spin_lock request is blocked by a mutex_lock call, the spin_lock
> attempt also sleeps i.e. behaves like a semaphore.
> If you gained ownership of the lock, you can switch between spin-mode
> and mutex-(ie.e sleeping) mode by calling:
>
>         combi_to_mutex_mode(struct combilock *x)
>         combi_to_spin_mode(struct combilock *x)
>
> without loosing the lock. So you may start with a spin-lock and relax
> to a sleeping lock if for example you need to call a non-atomic kmalloc.

This looks really ugly.  I'd really prefer an automatic fallback from
spinning to sleeping after some timeout like e.g. solaris adaptive
mutices.

>   * Does it make sense to also provide irq-save versions of the
>     locking functions? This means you could use the unlock functions
>     from interrupt context. But the main use in this situation is
>     completion handling and there are already (new) completion handlers
>     available. So I don't think this is a must have.

You are no supposed to sleep in irq context, so irq-save combi-locks
don't make that much sense, IMHO.

	Christoph

-- 
Of course it doesn't work. We've performed a software upgrade.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-02-07 18:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-07 15:38 Martin Wirth
2002-02-07 18:04 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-07 18:06 ` Richard Gooch
2002-02-07 18:22 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2002-02-07 19:33   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-07 19:55   ` Mark Frazer
2002-02-08 12:24   ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-02-07 18:40 ` Robert Love
2002-02-07 19:25   ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-07 19:51     ` Dave Hansen
2002-02-07 20:06       ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-07 20:11       ` Robert Love
2002-02-07 21:27     ` Ingo Molnar
2002-02-07 19:59       ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-08  8:20     ` Nigel Gamble
2002-02-08 17:06       ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-07 19:58   ` yodaiken
2002-02-07 20:08   ` Robert Love
2002-02-07 20:15     ` yodaiken
2002-02-07 20:20     ` Robert Love
2002-02-07 20:36       ` yodaiken
2002-02-07 20:57         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-07 21:00           ` yodaiken
2002-02-07 21:10             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-07 20:49   ` Martin Wirth
2002-02-08  8:34   ` Martin Wirth
2002-02-08 18:28     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-08 18:12       ` Martin Wirth
2002-02-08 18:33         ` Alexander Viro
2002-02-08 20:02         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-08 18:54           ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-08 19:11             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-08 19:21               ` Alexander Viro
2002-02-08 19:36                 ` Robert Love
2002-02-09  0:18                   ` Alexander Viro
2002-02-08 21:23                 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-02-08 21:36                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-08 20:04                     ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-08 21:16                       ` Mike Fedyk
2002-02-09  0:09                         ` Alan Cox
2002-02-09  0:05                           ` Mike Fedyk
2002-02-08 21:40                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-02-09 19:32                         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-07 19:56 ` yodaiken
2002-02-07 22:09   ` Ingo Molnar
2002-02-07 20:31     ` yodaiken
2002-02-07 20:57       ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-07 21:02         ` yodaiken
2002-02-08 12:31     ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-02-08 16:51       ` Nigel Gamble
2002-02-08 21:55         ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-02-08 18:41       ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-08 20:47         ` Ingo Molnar
2002-02-08 18:56           ` Alexander Viro
2002-02-08 20:59             ` Ingo Molnar
2002-02-08 19:10               ` Alexander Viro
2002-02-08 20:14       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-02-08 20:38         ` yodaiken
2002-02-08 12:47   ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-02-08 15:13     ` yodaiken
2002-02-08 19:22 ` Horst von Brand

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