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From: Harald Welte <laforge@gnumonks.org>
To: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netfilter-devel@lists.samba.org,
	stelian.pop@fr.alcove.com, hpa@zytor.com
Subject: Re: [SOLUTION] Re: Fw: 2.4.18-pre9: iptables screwed?
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 08:36:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020212083626.P11911@sunbeam.de.gnumonks.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020208105548.P26676@sunbeam.de.gnumonks.org> <Pine.LNX.3.96.1020211130712.32755C-100000@gatekeeper.tmr.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1020211130712.32755C-100000@gatekeeper.tmr.com>; from davidsen@tmr.com on Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 01:11:51PM -0500

On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 01:11:51PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
 
> What is the first thing anyone would do if they had a problem with
> iptables? Turn on debugging, obviously.

yes, I totally agree.  I'm not arguing that the current behaviour is OK - 
of course it should work with debugging enabled.  All I said is that under
normal circumstances a production system is not supposed to have debugging
enabled.

> 2 - it really should work, debug should find errors, not cause them.

of course. That is why debugging does extra checks, which are disabled 
in production use.  Unfortunately we missed one check...

> 3 - Perhaps debug could be disabled but default, so instead of needing
>     NDEBUG in production, you would use -DDEBUG when you had a problem
>     (and it might even work ;-).

Yes, this is what I'm doing for the iptables-1.2.6 release.  The current
-DNDEBUG stuff has historical reasons which are no longer valid.

> bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>

-- 
Live long and prosper
- Harald Welte / laforge@gnumonks.org               http://www.gnumonks.org/
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      reply	other threads:[~2002-02-12  7:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20020208.010839.112626203.davem@redhat.com>
2002-02-08  9:55 ` Harald Welte
2002-02-08 10:12   ` Stelian Pop
2002-02-08 10:30     ` Harald Welte
2002-02-08 10:50       ` Stelian Pop
2002-02-11 18:11   ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-12  7:36     ` Harald Welte [this message]

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