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From: Shane Nay <shane@minirl.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	zippel@linux-m68k.org (Roman Zippel)
Cc: davem@redhat.com (David S. Miller),
	lm@bitmover.com, pavel@ucw.cz, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Bitkeeper licence issues
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:01:27 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020319195935Z292522-889+124341@vger.kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E16nOzQ-0008U7-00@the-village.bc.nu>


> Hans Reiser's team of Russian wizards is simply a couple of years
> ahead of everyone else moving all real software development to the
> czech republic and india, the phone support to the philipines and
> the hardware to taiwanese and chinese bulk build to order.

Normal software development in economic terms is normally treated as 
a fixed cost to produce a "product".  Fixed costs determine market 
entry and exit points, not profitability.  Phone support, bulk built 
to order, and the way that most Taiwanese firms do hardware are 
variable costs.  Economically speaking it's an apples and oranges 
comparison, and to say one follows from the other is not really 
accurate.

Free software development on the other hand is a bit more tricky, and 
I could see how exporting the work in certain scenarios would make a 
lot of sense.  However, to this point most of us working in the Free 
Software industry are funded by companies working on "products".

(You're sounding like a lot of my friends in the SARHK when speaking 
of China Alan 8).

Asside- Fixed costs also determine other things like the number of 
competitors that can operate in a market for a particular good.  
Pretty much all software is an Oligopoly whereas the other things you 
mention are much closer to true competition.  The reason Free 
Software development is more tricky is that if Free Software were to 
rule the world, then it would be individual consultants vying for the 
same business of modifications to Free code bases.  So, in the 
alternate universe where all software is Free Software, Perfect 
Competition would probably rein supreme and there would be 1000s of 
consultants vying to make custom modifications for particular 
companies.  In that alternate universe, then programmers from western 
countries would be probably be driving dump trucks by day, and 
programming at night for fun.  Luckily I learned how to varnish and 
stain wood when I was a kid, so even if the alternate universe hits, 
I'm ready.

  reply	other threads:[~2002-03-19 19:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-03-18 21:26 Pavel Machek
2002-03-18 22:42 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-18 23:14   ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-18 23:22     ` Dave Jones
2002-03-18 23:43       ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-19  8:35         ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-19  2:02       ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-19  8:21         ` Gerd Knorr
2002-03-19 15:11           ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-19 21:58         ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-19 22:04           ` Larry McVoy
     [not found]         ` <20020319215800.GN12260@atrey.karlin.m__.cuni.cz>
2002-03-20 22:42           ` Ton Hospel
2002-03-19 22:06       ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-19 23:25         ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-19 23:27           ` David S. Miller
2002-03-19 23:44             ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-19 23:45               ` David S. Miller
2002-03-19 23:54                 ` Matthew Kirkwood
2002-03-19 23:56               ` Ben Collins
2002-03-20 17:23               ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-20 17:51                 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-20 18:04                   ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-20 20:34                     ` Neil Booth
2002-03-19 23:34           ` Tom Rini
2002-03-20  0:09             ` Alan Cox
2002-03-24 11:44             ` Thunder from the hill
2002-03-20  7:57           ` Alexander Viro
2002-03-19  0:00     ` yodaiken
2002-03-19  1:29       ` David S. Miller
2002-03-19  1:18   ` Roman Zippel
2002-03-19  1:37     ` David S. Miller
2002-03-19 18:42       ` Roman Zippel
2002-03-19 19:09         ` Alan Cox
2002-03-19 20:01           ` Shane Nay [this message]
2002-03-19 23:08           ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-19 23:19             ` Robert Love
2002-03-19 23:26               ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-19 23:42                 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-03-19 23:31             ` yodaiken
2002-03-19 23:47               ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-20  0:02                 ` Thomas Dodd
2002-03-20  0:19                 ` Theodore Tso
2002-03-20  0:57                   ` Petko Manolov
2002-03-21 19:44                 ` Mark H. Wood
2002-03-21 20:29                   ` Shane Nay
2002-03-27 14:40                 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-03-20  0:05               ` James Simmons
2002-03-19 20:35                 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-03-20  0:14                 ` Kurt Ferreira
2002-03-20  2:16                   ` Greg Hennessy
2002-03-20  0:57             ` Richard Gooch
2002-03-21 19:14           ` Roman Zippel
2002-03-21 20:54             ` Alan Cox
2002-03-22  0:02               ` Roman Zippel
2002-03-19  1:44     ` Anton Altaparmakov

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