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From: Richard Gooch <rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca>
To: "J.A. Magallon" <jamagallon@able.es>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: linux as a minicomputer ?
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 17:46:34 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200204132346.g3DNkYt09482@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020413220800.GA4283@werewolf.able.es>

J. A. Magallon writes:
> 
> On 2002.04.13 Richard Gooch wrote:
> >H. Peter Anvin writes:
> >> Richard Gooch wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > Actually, there is some impedance matching. I've seen monitors with
> >> > hi/lo impedance switches. And I've used 15 m long high-quality VGA
> >> > cables. The result has been pretty good.
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> The best I've seen is to use Sun D-sub coax or plain coax inputs on
> >> the monitors that have them.  Those are impedance matched and can be
> >> extended without problem.
> >
> >Sure, coax inputs are the best. But there are still problems. Even
> >expensive coax has higher attenuation at higher frequencies, so the
> >longer the cable, the more fuzziness you get. Also, there are
> >differential delay effects between the R, G and B components. You
> >don't want the pixel components to arrive at different times. So
> >there's a length limitation there as well.
> >
> >But even though coax is better, VGA isn't that bad. 15 m gets you
> >quite a lot of terminals in a web kiosk (or undergrad computer lab).
> >
> >BTW: I agree that X terminals suck. Even worse are SunRays. Ug!
> >
> 
> We have built a 'pseudo-CAVE' for presentations, and have six vgas
> feeding sony projectors with cabling between 15 and 20m, running
> at 1024x768@32. Quality is ok.
> 
> The problem is finding good PCI vga cards, even finding any,
> good or bad. Now they are TNT-M64. I'm also aware that SiS has some,
> but nothing special. But, to use it as terminals, they could be ok.
> 
> And coax is not so good. Even with expensive cable, the bounces of
> the signal made me see double like drunk. Video did not worked right
> until we got _golden_ connectors and soldered with silver. Believe
> me you could even put more mony on the cables that on the box.

Are you sure your monitors had properly matched terminators?

				Regards,

					Richard....
Permanent: rgooch@atnf.csiro.au
Current:   rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca

  reply	other threads:[~2002-04-13 23:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-04-11 15:46 John P. Looney
2002-04-11 16:43 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2002-04-11 16:49   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-04-11 17:07     ` Ed Sweetman
2002-04-11 17:12       ` Vojtech Pavlik
     [not found]         ` <3CB69032.D332FA51@aitel.hist.no>
2002-04-12  8:08           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-04-11 17:09     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2002-04-11 17:13       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-04-11 17:49         ` John P. Looney
2002-04-11 17:59           ` Rene Rebe
2002-04-11 18:46             ` James Simmons
2002-04-11 19:06             ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-04-12  7:41               ` Helge Hafting
2002-04-12  8:09                 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-04-11 18:01           ` James Simmons
2002-04-11 19:07           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-04-13 19:03       ` Alan Cox
2002-04-11 19:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-04-11 20:05   ` James Simmons
2002-04-12  7:31     ` Helge Hafting
2002-04-13 18:56   ` Alan Cox
2002-04-13 19:29     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-04-13 19:37       ` Richard Gooch
2002-04-13 19:40         ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-04-13 19:49           ` Richard Gooch
2002-04-13 22:08             ` J.A. Magallon
2002-04-13 23:46               ` Richard Gooch [this message]
2002-04-13 19:51       ` Alan Cox
2002-04-13 19:36         ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-04-14  4:30         ` Bill Davidsen
2002-04-14 13:45           ` Alan Cox
2002-04-14 16:44             ` Sten
2002-04-14 16:50               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2002-04-14 20:20                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-04-15 16:05                 ` Thomas Molina
2002-04-15  0:37             ` Rob Landley
2002-04-15  8:46               ` Helge Hafting
2002-04-15  9:10               ` Alan Cox
     [not found]               ` <3CBB522C.8070704@bcgreen.com>
2002-04-15 18:09                 ` Rob Landley
2002-04-14  2:35       ` ux " jw schultz
2002-04-11 17:42 linux " Ivan Ivanov

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