On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 09:57:15AM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote: > Well, now seems like a great time to discuss this. Ha. > > It's come to our attention that commercial companies are abusing BK under > the openlogging rules. To avoid paying for the product, they either put > in no comments or obscure comments. That is a violation of the license, > but good luck proving that they are doing it on purpose. > > The real issue is that we know from past history that companies make > changes to GPLed software and then delay access to those changes as > long as they can (the GPL allows for a "reasonable" amount of lag, > whatever that is). > > The intent of the openlogging requirement was to allow people to work > out in the open on free software, at no charge. The intent was never > to allow people to work on free software without giving their changes > back. I'm not commenting on people's rights to hide their changes, > they can do whatever they want, but I *am* saying that we don't have > support closed use for free. > > I'm considering a change to the BKL which says that N days after a > changeset is made, that changeset (and its ancestory) must be available > on a public bk server. In other words, put a hard limit on how long > you may hide. > > The time period has to be long enough to cover security fixes, DaveM > raised that issue. I'm thinking 90 days. > > Note: public server is not limited to bkbits.net. Any public server is > fine, so long as it is stable, well known, and available ~95% of the time. > Does 'public server' imply that the server is running bkd for anonymous access? I have several small projects under bk that I keep in repositories that are accesible to people with an account on my server, but not to anyone else - would this be a license violation? (I have no problem with openlogging - it just encourages me to make /intelligent/ checkin comments, or some approximation thereof) I'd prefer not to have to run bkd on my server if I don't /have/ to. Minimising the number of services available to be cracked, and all that . . . Simon Fowler -- PGP public key Id 0x144A991C, or ftp://bg77.anu.edu.au/pub/himi/himi.asc (crappy) Homepage: http://bg77.anu.edu.au doe #237 (see http://www.lemuria.org/DeCSS) My DeCSS mirror: ftp://bg77.anu.edu.au/pub/mirrors/css/