From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 25 May 2002 14:14:30 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 25 May 2002 14:14:29 -0400 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.81]:22410 "EHLO mailout03.sul.t-online.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 25 May 2002 14:14:28 -0400 To: Kurt Wall Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: Wolfgang Denk Subject: Re: patent on O_ATOMICLOOKUP [Re: [PATCH] loopable tmpfs (2.4.17)] X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 Mime-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 25 May 2002 13:47:09 EDT." <20020525134709.L405@marta> Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 20:13:57 +0200 Message-Id: <20020525181402.E675611972@denx.denx.de> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In message <20020525134709.L405@marta> Kurt Wall wrote: > > > You can dimiss those who haven't chosen #4 as much as you want and > > find all the reasons to justify your dismissal. It remains that the > > embedded/rt market is closed to Linux because of the current situation. > > That dog won't hunt. There are more players in the Linux embedded/RT space > than RTAI and RTLinux, which you have conveniently overlooked throughout > this entire thread. Maybe at this time none of them are ready for $300 > IPO pops, but you can't make the argument that "RT is closed to Linux" > when your only data points are RTAI and RTLinux. ...which are the only available free / GPL solutions. This is reason enough to be scared. And some versions of RTLinux are not even available under GPL (like RTLinux for MPC8xx CPUs). RTAI _is_ available, and under GPL, but the reputation is suffering under he patent FUD. Wolfgang Denk -- Software Engineering: Embedded and Realtime Systems, Embedded Linux Phone: (+49)-8142-4596-87 Fax: (+49)-8142-4596-88 Email: wd@denx.de "There are things that are so serious that you can only joke about them" - Heisenberg