From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 25 May 2002 15:04:35 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 25 May 2002 15:04:34 -0400 Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.83]:45985 "EHLO mailout07.sul.t-online.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 25 May 2002 15:04:34 -0400 To: Larry McVoy Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: Wolfgang Denk Subject: Re: patent on O_ATOMICLOOKUP [Re: [PATCH] loopable tmpfs (2.4.17)] X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 Mime-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 25 May 2002 11:44:26 PDT." <20020525114426.B15969@work.bitmover.com> Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 21:04:10 +0200 Message-Id: <20020525190415.3784B11972@denx.denx.de> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In message <20020525114426.B15969@work.bitmover.com> you wrote: > > Well, as someone who has been working in a somewhat similar manner, I can > say that there is a very unhealthy tendency for the free software community > to be fanatical and somewhat self destructive on these topics. There are > piles of people who want to make money off of your work and have absolutely > no intention in sharing that money. And they get pissed as hell when you > figure out a way to force them to share that money. After a while, you > get pretty sick of people yelling at you and you just start to ignore them. > I've spoken with Victor about this topic a few times and while I will not > speak for him in specifics, I will say he's equally unthrilled with a lot > of what gones on. It's tiresome. Let's talk about a specific example: we (DENX) published a patch for RTAI and RTLinux to support the MPC8xx Embedded PowerPC controllers. The patch has been on our FTP server since May 12, 2001. One month latyer, FSMLabs announced support for the MPC8xx in their commercial version of RTLinux. Until today they only offer 8xx support in their commercial version, but not in the GPLed version. Now tell me again who wants to make money off who's work? Wolfgang Denk -- Software Engineering: Embedded and Realtime Systems, Embedded Linux Phone: (+49)-8142-4596-87 Fax: (+49)-8142-4596-88 Email: wd@denx.de The IQ of the group is the lowest IQ of a member of the group divided by the number of people in the group.