From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 25 May 2002 17:56:15 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 25 May 2002 17:56:14 -0400 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.81]:36772 "EHLO mailout03.sul.t-online.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 25 May 2002 17:56:13 -0400 To: Larry McVoy Cc: "Albert D. Cahalan" , Linus Torvalds , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rtai@rtai.org From: Wolfgang Denk Subject: Re: patent on O_ATOMICLOOKUP [Re: [PATCH] loopable tmpfs (2.4.17)] X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 Mime-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 25 May 2002 14:33:33 PDT." <20020525143333.A17889@work.bitmover.com> Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 23:55:42 +0200 Message-Id: <20020525215547.6912411972@denx.denx.de> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In message <20020525143333.A17889@work.bitmover.com> Larry McVoy wrote: > On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 05:22:43PM -0400, Albert D. Cahalan wrote: > > To get a free patent license, EVERYTHING must be GPL. > > Not just the real-time part! So that would be: > > > > 1. the RT microkernel (OK) > > 2. the RT "app" (OK) > > 3. Linux itself (OK) > > 4. normal Linux apps (ouch!) > > Whether that is true or not I don't know. But I do know that if all the > stuff was GPLed, then you are safe no matter what, right? In other words, > there is a path you can take which makes it safe. And according to all the > RTAI people, that path should be completely acceptable, they all are quick > to tell you that everything they do (now) is GPLed and that's how they want > it. If that's true, no worries. I suspect the reality is that some/most > of the code is GPLed but there is some critical chunk that is not GPLed ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > and you don't get source and that's the revenue stream. If I'm wrong, the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > RTAI folks have nothing to worry about. We do have to worry something about: people like you who not only spread FUD, but also lies and insults. Larry, I consider this a personal insult, and hereby request you (1) to withdraw this statement in public and (2) to apologize to the RTAI comunity for it. Wolfgang Denk -- Software Engineering: Embedded and Realtime Systems, Embedded Linux Phone: (+49)-8142-4596-87 Fax: (+49)-8142-4596-88 Email: wd@denx.de If ignorance is bliss, why aren't there more happy people?