From: Kevin Easton <s3159795@student.anu.edu.au>
To: hugh@veritas.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.4.18 no timestamp update on modified mmapped files
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 15:24:43 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020615152443.A22396@beernut.flames.org.au> (raw)
> On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Andrew Morton wrote:
> >
> > A more serious form of data loss occurs when an application has a shared
> > mapping over a sparse file. If the filesystem is out of space when
> > the VM decides to write back some pages, your data simply gets dropped
> > on the floor. Even a subsequent msync() won't tell you that you have
> > a shiny new bunch of zeroes in your file.
> >
> > It's not simple to fix. Approaches might be:
> >
> > 1: Map the page to disk at fault time, generate SIGBUS on
> > ENOSPC (the standards don't seem to address this issue, and
> > this is a non-standard overload of SIGBUS).
>
>
> I've looked at this issue in the past: it's a familiar problem
> for various filesystems on various flavours of UNIX. Some of the
> strangeness in tmpfs (shmem_recalc_inode, or ac's shmem_removepage)
> can be traced to this issue, I believe. The filesystem does not
> know when a clean page is dirtied, and somehow has to cope afterwards.
>
>
> I believe your option 1 is closest to the right direction; and SIGBUS
> is entirely appropriate, I don't see it as a non-standard overload.
>
>
> But you didn't spell out the worst news on that option: read faults
> into a read-only shared mapping of a file which the application had
> open for read-write when it mmapped: the page must be mapped to disk
> at read fault time (because the mapping just might be mprotected for
> read-write later on, and the page then dirtied).
>
Can't the page be mapped to disk at the page-dirtying-fault time? I
was under the impression that even after the mapping has been mprotected
for read-write, the first write to each page will still cause a page
fault that results in the page being marked dirty.
- Kevin.
next reply other threads:[~2002-06-15 5:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-06-15 5:24 Kevin Easton [this message]
2002-06-15 8:10 ` Hugh Dickins
2002-06-15 9:12 ` Kevin Easton
2002-06-15 9:23 ` Russell King
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-06-19 17:57 Randy.Dunlap
2002-06-16 4:35 Kevin Easton
2002-06-16 16:35 ` Hugh Dickins
2002-06-11 5:33 Keith Owens
2002-06-11 6:17 ` Andrew Morton
2002-06-11 6:29 ` Keith Owens
2002-06-11 6:49 ` Andrew Morton
2002-06-11 7:07 ` Keith Owens
2002-06-11 7:28 ` Andrew Morton
2002-06-11 9:10 ` Hugh Dickins
2002-06-11 9:33 ` Andrew Morton
2002-06-11 9:51 ` Hugh Dickins
2002-06-12 7:40 ` Alan Cox
2002-06-12 7:56 ` Andrew Morton
2002-06-12 14:52 ` Hugh Dickins
2002-06-13 2:25 ` jw schultz
2002-06-13 9:58 ` Hugh Dickins
2002-06-13 10:40 ` jw schultz
2002-06-11 18:09 ` Robert Love
2002-06-12 17:17 ` Pavel Machek
2002-06-11 6:39 ` Andrew Morton
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