From: Werner Almesberger <wa@almesberger.net>
To: Brian Gerst <bgerst@didntduck.org>
Cc: Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>,
Linux-Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: simple handling of module removals Re: [OKS] Module removal
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:18:44 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020704161843.P2295@almesberger.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3D246392.7030807@quark.didntduck.org>; from bgerst@didntduck.org on Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 11:02:42AM -0400
Brian Gerst wrote:
> PS. If you really want to make the broken cases show themselves, poison
> the module memory when it is unloaded. The same can be done for dumping
> init data and text.
Unfortunately, many of the code paths leading to the races are
sufficiently different that it's currently unlikely to actually
hit them. (E.g. it's kind of hard for some 1000+ instructions
code path to compete successfully with a cached, pre-fetched,
and pre-decoded "ret" instruction. Entry-after-removal races
(and the related data races) may be a little bit easier to catch,
but I suppose we're still talking about a likely difference of
orders of magnitude.)
I don't think preemption changes that fundamentally.
Microthreading may, and NUMA will make execution times more
variable, increasing the risk of hitting a race.
The best way to trigger such races is probably to simulate
microthreading, e.g. with an UML-SMP where only one "CPU" can
run at a time, and where execution switching is under script
control.
- Werner
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Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-07-01 17:48 Bill Davidsen
2002-07-01 18:35 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-01 18:42 ` Jose Luis Domingo Lopez
2002-07-01 18:45 ` Shawn
2002-07-01 19:57 ` Diego Calleja
2002-07-01 20:03 ` Diego Calleja
2002-07-01 22:20 ` Jose Luis Domingo Lopez
2002-07-01 22:56 ` Ryan Anderson
2002-07-02 11:37 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-07-02 12:04 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-02 13:13 ` jlnance
2002-07-03 3:48 ` simple handling of module removals " Pavel Machek
2002-07-03 17:25 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-03 23:46 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-08 12:21 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-08 12:41 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-08 12:57 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-08 13:58 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-08 15:48 ` Daniel Gryniewicz
2002-07-08 17:23 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-08 13:06 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-08 13:15 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-03 23:48 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-05 9:40 ` Stephen Tweedie
2002-07-06 19:40 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-06 19:47 ` Pavel Machek
2002-07-04 1:18 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-04 1:53 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-04 4:00 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-04 2:25 ` Brian Gerst
2002-07-04 3:54 ` David Gibson
2002-07-04 4:08 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-04 15:02 ` Brian Gerst
2002-07-04 19:18 ` Werner Almesberger [this message]
2002-07-05 13:48 ` Pavel Machek
2002-07-07 14:56 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-07 22:36 ` Roman Zippel
2002-07-08 1:09 ` Daniel Mose
2002-07-09 17:07 ` Daniel Mose
2002-07-08 18:13 ` Pavel Machek
2002-07-08 22:43 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-09 14:00 ` Pavel Machek
2002-07-02 15:20 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-02 15:53 ` Jonathan Corbet
2002-07-02 16:07 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-07-02 17:48 ` Tom Rini
2002-07-02 18:10 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-07-02 21:50 ` Ryan Anderson
2002-07-03 22:26 ` Diego Calleja
2002-07-04 0:00 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-04 8:04 ` Helge Hafting
2002-07-02 16:08 ` Werner Almesberger
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.3.95.1020702075957.24872A-100000@chaos.analogic.c om>
2002-07-04 8:36 ` Mike Galbraith
2002-07-03 0:09 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-07-12 21:51 ` David Lang
[not found] <0C01A29FBAE24448A792F5C68F5EA47D2B0A8A@nasdaq.ms.ensim.com>
2002-07-04 0:29 ` simple handling of module removals " pmenage
2002-07-04 0:59 ` Daniel Phillips
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