From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 03:41:46 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 03:41:45 -0400 Received: from tom.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de ([134.109.132.38]:14086 "EHLO tom.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 03:41:44 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:44:17 +0200 From: Ingo Oeser To: Andrew Morton Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: direct-to-BIO for O_DIRECT Message-ID: <20020708094417.B18142@rotuma.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de> References: <3D2904C5.53E38ED4@zip.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3D2904C5.53E38ED4@zip.com.au>; from akpm@zip.com.au on Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 08:19:33PM -0700 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 08:19:33PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > Question is: what do we want to do with this sucker? These are the > remaining users of kiovecs: > > drivers/md/lvm-snap.c > drivers/media/video/video-buf.c > drivers/mtd/devices/blkmtd.c > drivers/scsi/sg.c > > the video and mtd drivers seems to be fairly easy to de-kiobufize. > I'm aware of one proprietary driver which uses kiobufs. XFS uses > kiobufs a little bit - just to map the pages. It would be nice if we could just map a set of user pages to a scatterlist. Developers of mass transfer devices (video grabbers, dsp devices, sg and many others) would just LOVE you for this ;-) Block devices are the common case worth optimizing for, but character devices just need to reimplement most of this, if they want the same optimizations. Some devices need mass transfers and are NOT blockdevices. Linux supports only one class of them properly: NICs. Please consider supporting them better for 2.5 in stuff similiar to BIOs and DMA to/from user pages. Thanks & Regards Ingo Oeser