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From: yodaiken@fsmlabs.com
To: mbs <mbs@mc.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: HZ, preferably as small as possible
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:01:40 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020715140140.A18132@hq.fsmlabs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200207151950.PAA11566@mc.com>; from mbs@mc.com on Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 03:52:37PM -0400

On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 03:52:37PM -0400, mbs wrote:
> On Monday 15 July 2002 14:56, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > (*) Which is a lot less than the hw can generate, since you mustn't allow
> > users to bog down the system in timer interrupts by just using
> > "itimer(ITIMER_REAL, .. fine-resolution..)".
> 
> actually, that is an interesting philosophical argument.
> 
> in an embedded system, it is sometimes more useful to not put artificial 

That's why we have RTLinux.

> in an embedded system a "tickless" system is sometimes preferable to a ticked 
> system.  there is often only one or a very small number of processes/threads 
> running and the extra overhead of 10 surplus clock ticks per process quantum 
> is a waste of cycles. (also when using a ppc or similar modern chip(flame 
> on;-), there is no need to keep a software wall clock, as the cpu has a 64bit 
> free running counter)  

Right: but "one or a very small number of processes/threads" does not apply to 
Linux.



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  reply	other threads:[~2002-07-15 19:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-10 19:59 Grover, Andrew
2002-07-10 21:09 ` george anzinger
2002-07-11  6:03   ` Hannu Savolainen
2002-07-11  7:15     ` george anzinger
2002-07-12  0:36       ` Stevie O
2002-07-12  0:50         ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-12  0:55           ` Robert Love
2002-07-12  0:58             ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-12  1:24             ` Alan Cox
2002-07-12  1:37             ` Mark Hahn
2002-07-12  1:09         ` george anzinger
2002-07-12  1:26           ` Roland Dreier
2002-07-12 17:30             ` george anzinger
2002-07-12  1:35           ` Stevie O
2002-07-12  3:01         ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-07-11 12:54     ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-11 15:59       ` Martin Dalecki
2002-07-10 21:28 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-10 21:35   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-10 21:38     ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-10 21:42       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-11  2:14         ` CaT
2002-07-11 17:01     ` Martin Dalecki
2002-07-10 22:01   ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-10 22:09     ` Cort Dougan
2002-07-11 13:36       ` Whoa... (was: Re: HZ, preferably as small as possible) Mark Mielke
2002-07-11 21:08         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-10 22:41     ` HZ, preferably as small as possible Thunder from the hill
2002-07-10 22:47       ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-10 22:49       ` Eli Carter
2002-07-10 23:05         ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-10 23:08       ` Dave Mielke
2002-07-10 23:13         ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-10 23:50     ` J.A. Magallon
2002-07-11  0:28   ` Lincoln Dale
2002-07-11 11:35     ` Kasper Dupont
2002-07-11 12:30       ` Alan Cox
2002-07-11 13:37         ` Kasper Dupont
2002-07-11 15:46           ` Alan Cox
2002-07-11 18:51       ` george anzinger
2002-07-15  5:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-15 16:26   ` Robert Love
2002-07-15 18:56     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-15 19:52       ` mbs
2002-07-15 20:01         ` yodaiken [this message]
2002-07-16 11:41   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-07-17 19:33   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-17 20:31     ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-17 20:40       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-17 21:02         ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-17 21:02       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-17 21:16         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-18 12:57         ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-18 13:25           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-18 10:10       ` Kai Henningsen
2002-07-17 20:55     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-11  2:46 Grover, Andrew
2002-07-11  3:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-07-11 11:45   ` Alan Cox
2002-07-11 17:08   ` Martin Dalecki
2002-07-11 19:21     ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-07-16  9:17       ` Kai Henningsen
2002-07-11 20:34     ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-12 12:01       ` Martin Dalecki
2002-07-15  5:15       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-15  6:56         ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-07-15  8:24           ` Russell King
2002-07-15 15:48             ` David Mosberger
2002-07-15 18:20               ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-07-15 18:30                 ` David Mosberger
2002-07-15 16:07             ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-07-15 17:06               ` Russell King
2002-07-15 18:43                 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-07-15 18:53                   ` Russell King
2002-07-15 18:50               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-15 20:15                 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-07-15  8:58         ` Dave Mielke
2002-07-11  7:09 ` george anzinger

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