From: Hubertus Franke <frankeh@watson.ibm.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: shreenivasa H V <shreenihv@usa.net>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Gang Scheduling in linux
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:25:40 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200207191525.40633.frankeh@watson.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0207201858180.17247-100000@localhost.localdomain>
On Saturday 20 July 2002 12:59 pm, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, Hubertus Franke wrote:
> > For this it seems sufficient to simply STOP apps on a larger granularity
> > and have that done through a user level daemon. The kernel scheduler
> > simply schedules the runnable threads that given the U-Sched would
> > always amount to a limited number of threads/tasks.
>
> yep, this is my suggestion as well. Any reason to do gang scheduling in
> the scheduler and not via a userspace daemon that stops/resumes (and
> binds) managed tasks explicitly?
>
> Ingo
Not from our experience from a cluster based application. Each node was
a SMP in that case.
On a single SMP I could imagine for instance for parallel reendering
or similar tightly integrated parallel programs that need data
synchronization. Most of these apps assume a tightly coupled non-virtual
resource, i.e., scheduling of tasks is aligned.
SGI used to have that stuff in their base kernel. Read a paper about this some
years ago.
Again, at the beginning I'd go with a user level scheduler approach that
certainly would satisfy national labs etc. Most of the cluster schedulers,
like PBS and LoadLeveler etc., already provide that functionality.
--
-- Hubertus Franke (frankeh@watson.ibm.com)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-07-19 20:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-07-16 22:54 shreenivasa H V
2002-07-18 16:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-07-17 17:40 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-18 17:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-07-17 17:47 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-17 20:14 ` Sam Mason
2002-07-18 20:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-07-17 20:39 ` Sam Mason
2002-07-18 20:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-07-17 21:24 ` Sam Mason
2002-07-18 12:43 ` Jean Wolter
2002-07-19 15:05 ` Hubertus Franke
2002-07-20 16:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-07-19 19:25 ` Hubertus Franke [this message]
2002-07-19 22:05 ` Richard Gooch
2002-07-22 19:52 ` Hubertus Franke
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