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From: Andries Brouwer <aebr@win.tue.nl>
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On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 10:32:10PM -0400, Alexander Viro wrote:

> Let me put it another way: I feel that a lot of things can be un-obfuscated
> by pure equivalent transformations that would treat almost all driver as
> block box

Yes.

(But things here are a bit more subtle than for example VFS,
since there are timing restrictions.)