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From: Andreas Dilger <adilger@clusterfs.com>
To: "Peter T. Breuer" <ptb@it.uc3m.es>
Cc: Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.de>,
	root@chaos.analogic.com, Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] mount flag "direct" (fwd)
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:15:01 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020903211501.GT32468@clusterfs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200209032107.g83L71h10758@oboe.it.uc3m.es>

On Sep 03, 2002  23:07 +0200, Peter T. Breuer wrote:
> You don't really want the whole rationale. It concerns certain 
> european (nay, world ..) scientific projects and the calculations of the
> technologists about the progress in hardware over the next few years.
> We/they foresee that we will have to move to multiple relatively small
> distributed disks per node in order to keep the bandwidth per unit of
> storage at the levels that they will have to be at to keep the farms
> fed.  We are talking petabytes of data storage in thousands of nodes
> moving over gigabit networks.
> 
> The "big view" calculations indicate that we must have distributed
> shared writable data.
> 
> These calculations affect us all. They show us what way computing
> will evolve under the price and technology pressures. The calculations
> are only looking to 2006, but that's what they show. For example
> if we think about a 5PB system made of 5000 disks of 1TB each in a GE
> net, we calculate the aggregate bandwidth available in the topology as
> 50GB/s, which is less than we need in order to keep the nodes fed
> at the rates they could be fed at (yes, a few % loss translates into
> time and money).  To increase available bandwidth we must have more
> channels to the disks, and more disks, ... well, you catch my drift.
> 
> So, start thinking about general mechanisms to do distributed storage.
> Not particular FS solutions.

Please see lustre.org.

Cheers, Andreas
--
Andreas Dilger
http://www-mddsp.enel.ucalgary.ca/People/adilger/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2resize/


  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-03 21:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-03 15:39 Peter T. Breuer
2002-09-03 15:44 ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-03 15:50   ` Peter T. Breuer
2002-09-03 15:56     ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-09-03 15:59       ` Peter T. Breuer
2002-09-03 16:09     ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-09-03 16:29       ` Peter T. Breuer
2002-09-03 16:33         ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-03 17:32         ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-09-03 18:53         ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-09-03 21:07           ` Peter T. Breuer
2002-09-03 21:15             ` Andreas Dilger [this message]
2002-09-03 21:15             ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-03 21:54             ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-09-03 22:46               ` Andreas Dilger
2002-09-03 23:19               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-04  0:18                 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-09-04  5:23                 ` David Lang
2002-09-04  7:16             ` Helge Hafting
2002-09-04  8:39               ` Andreas Dilger
2002-09-04 12:07                 ` Helge Hafting
2002-09-04 13:03                   ` Hans Reiser
2002-09-04  8:41               ` Peter T. Breuer
2002-09-04  7:50             ` Joachim Breuer
     [not found]               ` <3D75F8B0.8C7E974E@aitel.hist.no>
2002-09-04 21:26                 ` Joachim Breuer
2002-09-04  9:26             ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-09-03 16:58     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-09-03 17:26       ` Peter T. Breuer

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