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From: jbradford@dial.pipex.com
To: degger@fhm.edu (Daniel Egger)
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ide drive dying?
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 21:41:19 +0100 (BST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200209072041.g87KfJEk002074@darkstar.example.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1031429984.2723.29.camel@sonja.de.interearth.com> from "Daniel Egger" at Sep 07, 2002 10:19:44 PM

This discussion is becoming stupid, but here we go:

> > No, but you've upgraded the firmware, right?
> 
> Not exactly.

???  Either you did or didn't.

> According to IBM technical support there is no such thing
> as a new firmware. The drives are alright, the OS is broken.

Right, so you're calling Alan Cox a liar, then?  I know who I believe.

> > If that has fixed the problem, then it is not a faulty drive.
> Right, and how would you notice without sacrifying more data?

smartctl -X /dev/hda?

'Execute Extended Self Test' might be a good start

or you could just copy data to/from it, generally hammer it and spin it up, down, and sideways, generally try to make it go wrong, and if your data is intact, then I would trust it more than a disk that arrived in a jiffy bag, with an assurance that 'this one works'.

> > So, you'll just plug in your 'new' disk, and in a few months,
> > bad sectors will start appearing.
> 
> Not if you sold it at Ebay,

The bad sectors are just as likely to appear, but somebody else's data will be lost.  Very nice gesture, not to mention that you probably violate the Ebay T&C by selling a product that you suspect is faulty.

> which is what I did with all *new* drives I received from IBM.

Well, I won't buy a second hand drive from you then :-).

> I just kept the "serviceable used part" one in case I need to install
> Windows to upgrade the firmware of some drive or anything else in range.

Fine, if that's what floats your boat.

Infact, I was completely wrong, OK?  You were right all along, so there is no need to continue this pointless thread.

John.

  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-07 20:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-06 15:13 DevilKin
2002-09-06 15:26 ` Mike Dresser
2002-09-06 15:39   ` Alan Cox
2002-09-06 15:42     ` Mike Dresser
2002-09-06 16:14       ` Billy Harvey
2002-09-06 16:41         ` Mike Dresser
2002-09-06 18:00         ` jbradford
2002-09-06 17:58           ` Mike Dresser
2002-09-06 15:44   ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-09-06 16:19     ` Craig Ruff
2002-09-06 17:28   ` Daniel Egger
2002-09-06 15:36 ` jbradford
2002-09-06 15:55   ` DevilKin
2002-09-06 17:22     ` jbradford
2002-09-06 19:22       ` DevilKin
2002-09-07  9:30         ` Anders Fugmann
2002-09-07  9:37           ` Udo A. Steinberg
2002-09-07 15:54           ` Holger Lubitz
2002-09-07 16:31             ` jbradford
2002-09-07 12:31         ` Daniel Egger
2002-09-07 13:08           ` jbradford
2002-09-07 13:50             ` Daniel Egger
2002-09-07 15:02               ` jbradford
2002-09-07 20:19                 ` Daniel Egger
2002-09-07 20:41                   ` jbradford [this message]
2002-09-07 21:41                     ` Alan Cox
2002-09-07 21:41                   ` Alan Cox
2002-09-07 22:00                     ` jbradford
2002-09-07 23:19                       ` David Forrest
2002-09-08 10:56                         ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-09-08 14:14                           ` jbradford
2002-09-09 21:59                             ` Alan Cox
2002-09-07 22:05                   ` Andre Hedrick
2002-09-07  7:08     ` Andre Hedrick
2002-09-06 15:37 ` mbs
2002-09-06 15:54   ` Alan Cox
2002-09-06 15:38 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-06 17:33   ` Daniel Egger
2002-09-06 20:31     ` Alan Cox
2002-09-06 15:44 ` mbs
2002-09-06 17:46 ` mbs
2002-09-06 20:32   ` Alan Cox
2002-09-07 12:34     ` Daniel Egger
2002-09-07  7:02 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-09-07  7:42   ` jbradford
2002-09-07  7:50     ` Andre Hedrick
2002-09-06 20:40 Hell.Surfers
2002-09-06 21:01 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-07  1:02   ` Jason L Tibbitts III
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0209062017230.14523-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2002-09-07  6:09 ` jbradford
2002-09-08  0:02 Dieter Nützel
2002-09-08 17:42 ` jbradford
2002-09-09  1:31   ` Nuitari
2002-09-08 19:27     ` Ed Sweetman
2002-09-08 20:11       ` jbradford
2002-09-09  2:37         ` Nuitari
2002-09-09 12:26   ` Joachim Breuer
2002-09-09 18:17   ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-09 18:55     ` Mike Dresser
2002-09-10 12:48   ` Ookhoi
2002-09-10 13:59     ` Mike Dresser
2002-09-10 14:56       ` jbradford
2002-09-10 15:21         ` Mike Dresser
2002-09-10 15:29           ` Larry McVoy
2002-09-10 20:21     ` Andre Hedrick

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