From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>
To: Luben Tuikov <luben@splentec.com>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>,
"Justin T. Gibbs" <gibbs@scsiguy.com>,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Warning - running *really* short on DMA buffers while doingfiletransfers
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 22:48:36 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200209290248.g8T2mbx02015@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Message from Luben Tuikov <luben@splentec.com> of "Sat, 28 Sep 2002 19:25:39 EDT." <3D963A73.F593F5F7@splentec.com>
luben@splentec.com said:
> TCQ goes hand in hand with Task Attributes. I.e. a tagged task is an
> I_T_L_Q nexus and has a task attribute (Simple, Ordered, Head of
> Queue, ACA; cf. SAM-3, 4.9.1).
I believe the point I was making is that our only current expectation is
simple tag, which is unordered.
> aybe the generator of tags (block layer, user process through sg, etc)
> should also set the tag attribute of the task, as per SAM-3. Most
> often (as currently implicitly) this would be a Simple task attribute.
> Why not the block layer borrow the idea from SAM-3, I see IDE only
> coming closer to SCSI...
> This way there'd be no need for explicit barriers. They can be
> implemented through Ordered and Head of Queue Tasks, everything else
> is Simple attribute task (IO scheduler can play with those as it
> wishes).
> This would provide for a more general basis the whole game (IO
> scheduling, TCQ, IO barriers, etc).
That would be rather the wrong approach. As the layers move up from the
physical hardware, the level of abstraction becomes greater, so the current
proposal is (descending the abstractions):
journal transaction->REQ_BARRIER->cache synchronise (ide) or ordered tag (scsi)
Most of the implementation is in ll_rw_blk.c if you want to take a look
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-09-29 2:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-09-26 3:27 Warning - running *really* short on DMA buffers while doing file transfers Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2002-09-26 6:14 ` Jens Axboe
2002-09-26 7:04 ` Pedro M. Rodrigues
2002-09-26 15:31 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-27 6:13 ` Jens Axboe
2002-09-27 6:33 ` Matthew Jacob
2002-09-27 6:36 ` Jens Axboe
2002-09-27 6:50 ` Matthew Jacob
2002-09-27 6:56 ` Jens Axboe
2002-09-27 7:18 ` Matthew Jacob
2002-09-27 7:24 ` Jens Axboe
2002-09-27 7:29 ` Matthew Jacob
2002-09-27 7:34 ` Matthew Jacob
2002-09-27 7:45 ` Jens Axboe
2002-09-27 8:37 ` Matthew Jacob
2002-09-27 10:25 ` Jens Axboe
2002-09-27 12:18 ` Matthew Jacob
2002-09-27 12:54 ` Jens Axboe
2002-09-27 13:30 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-27 14:26 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-27 14:33 ` Jens Axboe
2002-09-27 16:26 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-27 17:21 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-27 18:56 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-27 19:07 ` Warning - running *really* short on DMA buffers while doingfile transfers Andrew Morton
2002-09-27 19:16 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-27 19:36 ` Warning - running *really* short on DMA buffers while doingfiletransfers Andrew Morton
2002-09-27 19:52 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-27 21:13 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-27 21:18 ` Matthew Jacob
2002-09-27 21:23 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-27 21:29 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-27 21:32 ` Matthew Jacob
2002-09-27 22:08 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-30 23:49 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-27 21:28 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-28 15:52 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-28 23:25 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-09-29 2:48 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2002-09-30 8:34 ` Jens Axboe
2002-09-29 4:00 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-29 15:45 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-29 16:49 ` [ getting OT ] " Matthew Jacob
2002-09-30 19:06 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-09-30 23:54 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-27 19:58 ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-27 20:58 ` Warning - running *really* short on DMA buffers while doing file transfers Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-27 21:38 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-27 22:08 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-27 22:28 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-27 22:48 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-27 18:59 ` Warning - running *really* short on DMA buffers while doingfile transfers Andrew Morton
2002-09-27 14:30 ` Warning - running *really* short on DMA buffers while doing file transfers Jens Axboe
2002-09-27 17:19 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-27 18:29 ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-27 14:56 ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-27 15:34 ` Matthew Jacob
2002-09-27 15:37 ` Jens Axboe
2002-09-27 17:20 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-27 12:28 ` Pedro M. Rodrigues
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