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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>
To: Luben Tuikov <luben@splentec.com>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>,
	"Justin T. Gibbs" <gibbs@scsiguy.com>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Warning - running *really* short on DMA buffers while  doingfiletransfers
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 22:48:36 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200209290248.g8T2mbx02015@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Message from Luben Tuikov <luben@splentec.com>  of "Sat, 28 Sep 2002 19:25:39 EDT." <3D963A73.F593F5F7@splentec.com>

luben@splentec.com said:
> TCQ goes hand in hand with Task Attributes. I.e. a tagged task is an
> I_T_L_Q nexus and has a task attribute (Simple, Ordered, Head of
> Queue, ACA; cf. SAM-3, 4.9.1). 

I believe the point I was making is that our only current expectation is 
simple tag, which is unordered.

> aybe the generator of tags (block layer, user process through sg, etc)
> should also set the tag attribute of the task, as per SAM-3. Most
> often (as currently implicitly) this would be a Simple task attribute.
> Why not the block layer borrow the idea from SAM-3, I see IDE only
> coming closer to SCSI...

> This way there'd be no need for explicit barriers. They can be
> implemented through Ordered and Head of Queue Tasks, everything else
> is Simple attribute task (IO scheduler can play with those as it
> wishes).

> This would provide for a more general basis the whole game (IO
> scheduling, TCQ, IO barriers, etc). 

That would be rather the wrong approach.  As the layers move up from the 
physical hardware, the level of abstraction becomes greater, so the current 
proposal is (descending the abstractions):

journal transaction->REQ_BARRIER->cache synchronise (ide) or ordered tag (scsi)

Most of the implementation is in ll_rw_blk.c if you want to take a look

James



  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-29  2:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-26  3:27 Warning - running *really* short on DMA buffers while doing file transfers Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2002-09-26  6:14 ` Jens Axboe
2002-09-26  7:04   ` Pedro M. Rodrigues
2002-09-26 15:31     ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-27  6:13       ` Jens Axboe
2002-09-27  6:33         ` Matthew Jacob
2002-09-27  6:36           ` Jens Axboe
2002-09-27  6:50             ` Matthew Jacob
2002-09-27  6:56               ` Jens Axboe
2002-09-27  7:18                 ` Matthew Jacob
2002-09-27  7:24                   ` Jens Axboe
2002-09-27  7:29                     ` Matthew Jacob
2002-09-27  7:34                       ` Matthew Jacob
2002-09-27  7:45                         ` Jens Axboe
2002-09-27  8:37                           ` Matthew Jacob
2002-09-27 10:25                             ` Jens Axboe
2002-09-27 12:18                               ` Matthew Jacob
2002-09-27 12:54                                 ` Jens Axboe
2002-09-27 13:30                               ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-27 14:26                                 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-27 14:33                                   ` Jens Axboe
2002-09-27 16:26                                   ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-27 17:21                                     ` James Bottomley
2002-09-27 18:56                                       ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-27 19:07                                         ` Warning - running *really* short on DMA buffers while doingfile transfers Andrew Morton
2002-09-27 19:16                                           ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-27 19:36                                             ` Warning - running *really* short on DMA buffers while doingfiletransfers Andrew Morton
2002-09-27 19:52                                               ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-27 21:13                                                 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-27 21:18                                                   ` Matthew Jacob
2002-09-27 21:23                                                     ` James Bottomley
2002-09-27 21:29                                                       ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-27 21:32                                                       ` Matthew Jacob
2002-09-27 22:08                                                       ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-30 23:49                                                       ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-27 21:28                                                   ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-28 15:52                                                     ` James Bottomley
2002-09-28 23:25                                                       ` Luben Tuikov
2002-09-29  2:48                                                         ` James Bottomley [this message]
2002-09-30  8:34                                                         ` Jens Axboe
2002-09-29  4:00                                                       ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-29 15:45                                                         ` James Bottomley
2002-09-29 16:49                                                           ` [ getting OT ] " Matthew Jacob
2002-09-30 19:06                                                           ` Luben Tuikov
2002-09-30 23:54                                                     ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-27 19:58                                               ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-27 20:58                                       ` Warning - running *really* short on DMA buffers while doing file transfers Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-27 21:38                                         ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-27 22:08                                           ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-27 22:28                                             ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-27 22:48                                               ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-27 18:59                                     ` Warning - running *really* short on DMA buffers while doingfile transfers Andrew Morton
2002-09-27 14:30                                 ` Warning - running *really* short on DMA buffers while doing file transfers Jens Axboe
2002-09-27 17:19                                   ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-27 18:29                                     ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-27 14:56                                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-27 15:34                                 ` Matthew Jacob
2002-09-27 15:37                                   ` Jens Axboe
2002-09-27 17:20                                     ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-27 12:28       ` Pedro M. Rodrigues

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