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From: Hank Leininger <linux-kernel@progressive-comp.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] O_STREAMING - flag for optimal streaming I/O
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 00:16:45 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200210110416.g9B4Gjs09451@marc2.theaimsgroup.com> (raw)

On 2002-10-10, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk@matchmail.com> wrote: 
 
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 03:17:35PM +0200, Giuliano Pochini wrote: 
> > Thing again about to backup a large database. I don't 
> > want to use tar because it kills the caches. I would 
> > like a way to read the db so that the cached part of 
> > the db (the 20% which gets 80% of accesses) is not 
> > expunged. 
 
> Unless you are pausing the database (causing the files on disk to be in 
> a useful state) and then reading the file you will have trouble.  
> Anything else will have to syncronize with the database itself, and 
> thus can't use O_STREAMING. 
 
Pausing the database != putting the database into readonly mode, which is 
all that would really be required.  If your writer-processes are distinct 
from your reader-processes, you could suspend them (and/or batch up writes 
to temp tables to shrink your externally-felt maintenance window), tell 
the DB to flush pending writes, then dump with O_STREAMING-aware tar (or 
db-specific tools that still must pass through all tables/files) while 
read performance is only somewhat impacted, and cache isn't completely 
killed. 
 
Or, consider the case where the database isn't anywhere near all that the 
system does.  Think static content + DB-driven webserver, where the DB 
*can* be completely shut down (and those parts unavailable) during 
backups, while static content serving still goes on efficiently. 
 
-- 
Hank Leininger <hlein@progressive-comp.com>  
   

             reply	other threads:[~2002-10-11  4:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-11  4:16 Hank Leininger [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-10-08  2:38 Robert Love
2002-10-08 10:42 ` J.A. Magallon
2002-10-08 18:08   ` Robert Love
2002-10-08 18:38 ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-10-08 18:49   ` Robert Love
2002-10-08 19:05     ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-10-08 19:17       ` Robert Love
2002-10-08 19:30         ` Andrew Morton
2002-10-09 14:14           ` Marco Colombo
2002-10-09 16:30           ` kernel
2002-10-08 19:52         ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-10-08 19:59           ` Robert Love
2002-10-08 20:01             ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-10-09  8:33         ` Giuliano Pochini
2002-10-09  8:43           ` Andrew Morton
2002-10-09 10:55             ` Giuliano Pochini
2002-10-09 17:05           ` Mark Mielke
2002-10-09 19:36             ` Giuliano Pochini
2002-10-09 22:24               ` Mark Mielke
2002-10-09 23:20                 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-10-10  3:07                   ` Mark Mielke
2002-10-10 10:55                     ` Helge Hafting
2002-10-10 17:50                       ` Mark Mielke
2002-10-10  3:29                   ` Erik Andersen
2002-10-10  3:37                     ` Robert Love
2002-10-10 13:39                       ` Giuliano Pochini
2002-10-10 22:50                         ` Mike Fedyk
2002-10-10 22:58                           ` Erik Andersen
2002-10-11  8:26                           ` Giuliano Pochini
2002-10-11  8:32                           ` Helge Hafting
2002-10-10  8:33                     ` Giuliano Pochini
2002-10-10  9:10                       ` Erik Andersen
2002-10-10  9:38                         ` Giuliano Pochini
2002-10-10 10:40                           ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2002-10-10 11:01                           ` Helge Hafting
2002-10-10 12:29                             ` Xavier Bestel
2002-10-10 13:17                             ` Giuliano Pochini
2002-10-10 22:44                               ` Mike Fedyk
2002-10-11  8:13                                 ` Giuliano Pochini
2002-10-10 15:37                     ` Gerhard Mack
2002-10-10 22:47                       ` Mike Fedyk
2002-10-11  2:14                         ` Gerhard Mack
2002-10-11  8:10                           ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-10-10  9:14                 ` David Lang
2002-10-10 14:51               ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-10-08 19:53       ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2002-10-08 19:59         ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-10-08 20:03         ` Andrew Morton
2002-10-08 20:34           ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2002-10-08 20:42             ` Andrew Morton
2002-10-08 20:37           ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-09 11:53 ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-10-09 14:10 ` Marco Colombo
2002-10-09 14:14   ` Robert Love
2002-10-09 14:33     ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-10-09 15:27     ` Andreas Dilger
2002-10-09 23:17       ` Jamie Lokier
2002-10-09 23:46       ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-10  0:16         ` Jamie Lokier
2002-10-10  2:39           ` Erik Andersen
2002-10-10 10:33         ` Marco Colombo
2002-10-10 20:00           ` Erik Andersen

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