From: Jeff Dike <jdike@karaya.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>, john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
george anzinger <george@mvista.com>,
Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>,
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] linux-2.5.43_vsyscall_A0
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 21:03:09 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200210200203.VAA04444@ccure.karaya.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 20 Oct 2002 02:15:40 +0200." <20021020001540.GR23930@dualathlon.random>
andrea@suse.de said:
> What I suggested is an arch specific syscall to shutdown vsyscalls
> enterely for the current task and its childs,
Then I misunderstood.
> the vsyscall will call
> into the real syscall with sysenter, and you will be able to
> revirtualize gettimeofday/time like you do on x86 with ptrace.
And the task-specific fixmap entry would point to a page that makes the normal
system call?
> what do you mean that uml needs the vsyscalls more than the other
> archs?
Because its system calls are much slower than the host's. It would benefit
more from vsyscalls.
> I much prefer you to keep trapping the gettimeofday and time with
> ptrace after shutting down the vsyscalls for the current task, it's so
> much cleaner.
And so much slower.
> The overhead of ptrace cannot be your point, if that
> overhead is a showstopper uml isn't an option in the first place.
I don't plan on using ptrace forever. That overhead is going to shrink, and
vsyscalls are one way to make it shrink.
I intend to make UML perform by grabbing whatever improvements from wherever
I can get them, and if I can't get vsyscalls because they're not virtualizable,
then, from my point of view, their design is broken.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-10-20 0:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-10-18 22:57 john stultz
2002-10-18 22:58 ` [EXAMPLE CODE] linux-2.5.43_vsyscall_A0 john stultz
2002-10-19 3:52 ` [PATCH] linux-2.5.43_vsyscall_A0 Jeff Dike
2002-10-19 3:10 ` Andi Kleen
2002-10-19 4:49 ` Jeff Dike
2002-10-19 4:02 ` Andi Kleen
2002-10-19 4:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-10-20 2:59 ` Andi Kleen
2002-10-20 6:44 ` Elladan
2002-10-20 9:27 ` [discuss] " Andi Kleen
2002-10-20 10:58 ` Elladan
2002-10-20 11:20 ` Andi Kleen
2002-10-20 14:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-10-21 16:49 ` george anzinger
2002-10-20 13:19 ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-10-20 14:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-10-19 4:10 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-10-19 4:45 ` Andi Kleen
2002-10-19 5:01 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-10-19 23:43 ` Jeff Dike
2002-10-20 0:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-10-20 2:03 ` Jeff Dike [this message]
2002-10-20 2:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-10-22 5:07 ` Jeff Dike
2002-10-22 4:15 ` Andi Kleen
2002-10-22 4:29 ` Andrew Morton
2002-10-22 9:39 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-22 16:12 ` Andrew Morton
2002-10-22 5:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-10-22 5:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-10-22 7:24 ` Elladan
2002-10-22 7:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-10-23 5:12 ` Elladan
2002-10-23 5:43 ` Elladan
2002-10-23 17:51 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-10-21 15:43 ` Stephen Hemminger
2002-10-21 16:26 ` Andi Kleen
2002-10-21 17:10 ` john stultz
2002-10-19 19:14 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-10-20 1:50 ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-20 2:56 ` Andi Kleen
2002-10-24 11:24 ` Pavel Machek
2002-10-24 11:24 ` Pavel Machek
2002-10-19 22:36 ` Ton Hospel
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