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From: linux@horizon.com
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [lkcd-general] Re: What's left over.
Date: 3 Nov 2002 17:08:23 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021103170823.10591.qmail@science.horizon.com> (raw)

Just to complicate things, consider this setup:

# cat /proc/swaps
Filename			Type		Size	Used	Priority
/dev/md5                        partition	999864	16904	0
/dev/md6                        partition	999864	16924	0
/dev/md7                        partition	999864	16920	0

Those are all RAID-1 mirrors, a measure whose ass-saving value I have
enjoyed.

While a crash dump to just half of one of those mirrors is fine, finding it
might be a little bit tricky.  And the fact that the kernel reassembles
the mirrors automatically on boot might make retrieving the data a little
bit tricky, too.

(After a crash, the mirrors will be inconsistent, so one will get copied
over the other, but I'm not too clear on which direction it'll happen in.)

I can't NOT reassemble at least some mirrors on boot because / is mirrored!

Now, to that, add the case that each of those is significantly smaller than
main memory.  (2/3 size would still allow swap = 2*ram.)


The problem is that hardware is getting more and more sopisticated and
requiring ever more elaborate device drivers.  Eventually you have to
have a cutoff and say that something is too complex to talk to after a
crash, even though it's theoretically available.  Where is that line?
USB?  iSCSI?  This situation?

A reasonable fallback is to just drop in a cheap crappy dedicated
IDE drive for catching crash dumps, but I'd like the crash dumper to
know how to wake it up from sleep mode; I'd hate to leave it spinning
all the time...

             reply	other threads:[~2002-11-03 17:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-11-03 17:08 linux [this message]
2002-11-03 19:14 ` jw schultz
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-11-05 20:37 Dr. Greg Wettstein
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0211040727330.771-100000@home.transmeta.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <1036429035.1718.99.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-11-04 16:53   ` Andi Kleen
2002-11-04 12:34 Richard J Moore
2002-11-04 11:59 Richard J Moore
2002-11-04 12:27 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-11-04 16:16 ` John Alvord
2002-11-04 16:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-04 16:57   ` Alan Cox
2002-11-05  9:05     ` Suparna Bhattacharya
     [not found] <551170412@toto.iv>
2002-11-04  3:03 ` Peter Chubb
2002-11-04 13:08   ` Alan Cox
2002-11-03 13:48 Bill Davidsen
2002-11-04  2:44 ` [lkcd-general] " Jennie Haywood
2002-11-04 14:45   ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-11-04 15:29     ` Alan Cox
2002-11-04 15:27       ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-11-04 15:38         ` Patrick Finnegan
2002-11-04 16:51           ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-11-05  4:57     ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-02 15:29 Alan Cox
2002-11-03  1:24 ` [lkcd-general] " Matt D. Robinson
2002-11-03  1:49   ` Alan Cox
2002-11-03 14:33     ` Bill Davidsen
2002-11-03 15:34       ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-11-03 16:32       ` Alan Cox
2002-11-05 18:07         ` Bill Davidsen
2002-11-03  3:10   ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-31 22:47 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2002-11-01 13:06 ` [lkcd-general] " Jan Iven
2002-10-31 22:20 Shawn
2002-10-31 23:14 ` [lkcd-general] " Bernhard Kaindl
2002-10-31 21:58 Richard J Moore
2002-10-31 15:46 Linus Torvalds
2002-10-31 17:55 ` [lkcd-general] " Dave Craft
2002-10-31 18:45   ` Patrick Mochel
2002-10-31 19:16     ` Stephen Hemminger
2002-10-31 19:57       ` george anzinger
2002-10-31 20:48         ` Stephen Hemminger

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