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From: Marc-Christian Petersen <m.c.p@wolk-project.de>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Con Kolivas <conman@kolivas.net>
Subject: Re: 2.[45] fixes for design locking bug in wait_on_page/wait_on_buffer/get_request_wait
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 18:23:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200211161810.23039.m.c.p@wolk-project.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20021116165956.GF31697@dualathlon.random>

On Saturday 16 November 2002 17:59, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:

Hi Andrea,

> Your pausing problem have little to do with the pausing fix, the problem
> for you is the read latency, you're not triggering the race condition
> fixed by the pausing fix so it can't make differences. One of the
> foundamental obstacles to the read latency is the size of the I/O queue,
> factor that is workarounded by the read-latency patch that basically
> bypasses the size of the queue hiding the problem and in turn can't fix
> the write latency with O_SYNC and the read latency during true read aio
> etc...
ok, after some further tests, I think this is _somewhat_ FS dependent. I tried 
this with ext2, ext3 (no difference there) and also with ReiserFS and what 
must I say, those "Pausings" caused be the write latency doing it with 
ReiserFS are alot less than with ext2|ext3 but are still occuring.

There must went in something bullshitty into 2.4.19/2.4.20 that causes those 
ugly things because 2.4.18 does not have that problem. This is still why I 
don't use any kernels >2.4.18.

After changing elevator things like this:

root@codeman:[/] # elvtune /dev/hda

/dev/hda elevator ID            0
        read_latency:           2048
        write_latency:          1024
        max_bomb_segments:      0

those "pausings" are less worse than before but are still there.
NOTE: Write latency is lower than read latency (it's not a typo :)

ciao, Marc



  reply	other threads:[~2002-11-16 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-11-16 16:24 Marc-Christian Petersen
2002-11-16 16:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-11-16 17:23   ` Marc-Christian Petersen [this message]
2002-11-16 17:32     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-11-16 17:43       ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2002-11-16 18:46         ` Andrea Arcangeli
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-11-16 18:58 Marc-Christian Petersen
2002-11-16 21:55 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2002-11-17 17:37   ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2002-11-17 19:19     ` Folkert van Heusden
2002-11-12  3:57 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-11-12  8:50 ` Andrew Morton
2002-11-12 18:15   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-11-12 19:46     ` Andrew Morton
2002-11-13  0:33       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-11-13  1:01         ` Andrew Morton

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