From: Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk>
To: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] threading enhancements, tid-2.5.47-C0
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 21:55:40 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021120215540.GA11879@bjl1.asuk.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3DDB09C2.3070100@redhat.com>
Ulrich Drepper wrote:
> > (That said, I'm not entirely convinced that blocking signals in cfork()
> > is so bad, if we assume that cfork() is a relatively expensive
> > operation anyway...)
>
> It could mean a signal cannot be delivered and reacted on in time. The
> other threads could have blocked the signal which arrives. Every time
> signals have to be blocked to implement a function something is wrong,
I don't buy this argument. You block signals, do something, unblock
signals. There may be a _tiny_ delay in delivering the signal - of
the order of a single system call time, i.e. not significant. (That
delay is much shorter than signal delivery time itself). No signals
are actually _lost_, which would be important if it could happen.
Blocking signals briefly is very similar to taking a spinlock. It has
a small overhead, which is probably not significant in the case of
cfork() and its likely applications.
Regarding whether clone() needs a separate child tid_address pointer -
I have no strong opinion (you can implement cfork() with or without),
but you might want to consider, from Glibc's perspective, that there
aren't many argument words left for future uses..
-- Jamie
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Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2002-11-17 18:54 ` [patch] threading fix, tid-2.5.47-A3 Linus Torvalds
2002-11-17 20:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-11-17 20:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-11-17 19:54 ` Luca Barbieri
2002-11-17 21:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-11-17 20:16 ` Luca Barbieri
2002-11-17 21:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-11-17 20:35 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-11-17 20:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-11-17 20:49 ` Luca Barbieri
2002-11-17 22:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-11-17 23:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-17 23:23 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-11-18 1:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-18 3:33 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-11-18 3:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-18 3:58 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-11-18 4:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-18 4:31 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-11-18 6:46 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-11-18 16:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-18 8:07 ` Luca Barbieri
2002-11-18 8:21 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-11-18 8:27 ` Luca Barbieri
2002-11-18 9:30 ` [patch] threading enhancements, tid-2.5.47-C0 Ingo Molnar
2002-11-18 8:29 ` Luca Barbieri
2002-11-18 12:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-11-18 12:11 ` Luca Barbieri
2002-11-20 1:40 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-11-20 1:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-20 3:37 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-11-20 4:04 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-11-20 21:55 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2002-11-20 22:11 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-11-20 23:26 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-11-20 23:28 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-11-21 0:18 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-11-21 9:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-11-21 12:07 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-11-21 0:37 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-11-20 8:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-11-20 9:51 ` [patch] threading enhancements, tid-2.5.48-A1 Ingo Molnar
2002-11-20 8:41 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-11-20 20:20 ` Luca Barbieri
2002-11-21 18:03 ` [patch] threading enhancements, tid-2.5.48-C0 Ingo Molnar
2002-11-21 19:30 ` Luca Barbieri
2002-11-18 8:30 ` [patch] threading fix, tid-2.5.47-A3 Luca Barbieri
2002-11-18 12:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-11-18 12:50 ` Luca Barbieri
2002-11-18 12:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-11-18 13:20 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-18 13:03 ` Luca Barbieri
2002-11-18 16:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-18 16:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-11-18 1:46 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-11-18 3:40 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-11-18 22:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-11-17 23:37 ` Ulrich Drepper
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