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From: Joel Becker <Joel.Becker@oracle.com>
To: Neil Brown <neilb@cse.unsw.edu.au>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RFC - new raid superblock layout for md driver
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 11:34:24 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021121193424.GB770@nic1-pc.us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20021121014625.GA14063@redhat.com>

On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 08:46:25PM -0500, Doug Ledford wrote:
> I haven't yet played with the new dm code, but if it's like I expect it to 
> be, then I predict that in a few years, or maybe much less, md and dm will 
> be two parts of the same whole.  The purpose of md is to map from a single 

	Most LVMs support mirroring as an essential function.  They
don't usually support RAID5, leaving that to hardware.
	I certainly don't want to have to deal with two disparate
systems to get my code up and running.  I don't want to be limited in my
mirroring options at the block device level.
	DM supports mirroring.  It's a simple 1:2 map.  Imagine this LVM
volume layout, where volume 1 is data and mirrored, and volume 2 is some
scratch space crossing both disks.

	[Disk 1]	[Disk 2]
	  [volume 1]	  [volume 1 copy]
          [       volume 2              ]
	
	If DM handles the mirroring, this works great.  Disk 1 and disk
2 are handled either as the whole disk (sd[ab]) or one big partition on
each disk (sd[ab]1), with DM handling the sizing and layout, even
dynamically.
	If MD is handling this, then the disks have to be partitioned.
sd[ab]1 contain the portions of md0, and sd[ab]2 are managed by DM.  I
can't resize the partitions on the fly, I can't break the mirror to add
space to volume 2 quickly, etc.

Joel

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  reply	other threads:[~2002-11-21 19:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-11-20  4:09 Neil Brown
2002-11-20 10:03 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-11-20 23:02   ` Neil Brown
2002-11-22  0:08   ` Kenneth D. Merry
2002-12-09  3:52     ` Neil Brown
2002-12-10  6:28       ` Kenneth D. Merry
2002-12-11  0:07         ` Neil Brown
2002-11-20 13:58 ` Bill Rugolsky Jr.
2002-11-20 23:17   ` Neil Brown
2002-11-20 14:09 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-20 23:11   ` Neil Brown
2002-11-21  0:30     ` Alan Cox
2002-11-21  0:30     ` Alan Cox
2002-11-20 16:03 ` Joel Becker
2002-11-20 23:31   ` Neil Brown
2002-11-21  1:46     ` Doug Ledford
2002-11-21 19:34       ` Joel Becker [this message]
2002-11-21 19:54         ` Doug Ledford
2002-11-21 19:57           ` Steven Dake
2002-11-21 20:38             ` Doug Ledford
2002-11-21 20:49               ` Steven Dake
2002-11-21 20:35                 ` Kevin Corry
2002-11-21 21:29             ` Alan Cox
2002-11-21 21:22               ` Doug Ledford
2002-11-21 20:53                 ` Kevin Corry
2002-11-21 21:55                   ` Doug Ledford
2002-11-21 23:49               ` DM vs MD (Was: RFC - new raid superblock layout for md driver) Luca Berra
2002-11-21 20:06           ` RFC - new raid superblock layout for md driver Joel Becker
2002-11-21 23:35           ` Luca Berra
2002-11-22 10:13   ` Joe Thornber
2002-12-02 21:38     ` Neil Brown
2002-12-03  8:24       ` Luca Berra
2002-11-20 17:05 ` Steven Dake
2002-11-20 23:30   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-11-20 23:48   ` Neil Brown
2002-11-21  0:29     ` Steven Dake
2002-11-21 15:23       ` John Stoffel
2002-11-21 19:36   ` Joel Becker
2002-11-22  7:11 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2002-11-20 15:55 Steve Pratt
2002-11-20 23:24 ` Neil Brown
2002-11-20 23:47 Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-11-21  0:31 ` Neil Brown
2002-11-21  0:35 ` Steven Dake
2002-11-21  1:10   ` Alan Cox
2002-12-08 22:35   ` Neil Brown
2002-11-21 19:39 ` Joel Becker

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