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From: John Bradford <john@grabjohn.com>
To: davej@codemonkey.org.uk (Dave Jones)
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	lm@bitmover.com, lm@work.bitmover.com, torvalds@transmeta.com,
	vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl, akpm@digeo.com
Subject: Re: Dedicated kernel bug database
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 19:52:29 +0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200212191952.gBJJqTb3002477@darkstar.example.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20021219184958.GA6837@suse.de> from "Dave Jones" at Dec 19, 2002 06:49:58 PM

>  > >It could warn the user if they attach an un-decoded oops that their
>  > >bug report isn't as useful as it could be, and if they mention a
>  > >distribution kernel version, that it's not a tree that the developers
>  > >will necessarily be familiar with
>  > Perhaps a more generalized hook into bugzilla for 'validating' a bug 
>  > report, then code specific validators for kernel work?
> 
> Its a nice idea, but I think it's a lot of effort to get it right,
> when a human can look at the dump, realise its not decoded, and
> send a request back in hardly any time at all.

Somebody still has to answer it - loads of mails to LKML go unanswered
because people are spending their time coding instead of reading the
list, (which is good).

> I also don't trust things like this where if something goes wrong,
> we could lose the bug report.

How?  I don't see as that is more likely than with Bugzilla.  Anyway,
loads of LKML posts get ignored, and nobody seems to worry about it :-).

> People are also more likely to ping-pong ,argue or "how do I..."
> with a human than they are with an automated robot.

The idea is that the bug database does a sanity check on their bug
report.  It still gets entered in to the database, but it would return
something like:

"
Hi,

You submitted a bug to the bug database.  Please note the following:

* You mentioned kernel version foobar.  This appears to be a vendor
kernel, not an official kernel tree.  Your distribution maintainers
might be more appropriate people to contact

* You included an undecoded oops - this is probably useless.  Please
read the FAQ.

Thanks for using the bug database.  Your bug has been assigned to
[whoever].
"

I don't see any way of making Bugzilla do all the things I described
originally, specifically the advanced tracking of versions tested.
That could help to find duplicates, which is a big problem when you
have 1000+ bugs.

John.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-12-19 19:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-12-19 13:35 John Bradford
2002-12-19 17:33 ` Brian Jackson
2002-12-20  3:26   ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-19 17:48 ` Eli Carter
2002-12-19 18:49   ` Dave Jones
2002-12-19 19:49     ` Eli Carter
2002-12-19 20:12       ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 20:24         ` Eli Carter
2002-12-19 20:45           ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 19:52     ` John Bradford [this message]
2002-12-19 20:18       ` Dave Jones
2002-12-19 20:32         ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-12-19 20:42         ` John Bradford
2002-12-20  3:40           ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-20  9:48             ` John Bradford
2002-12-20 10:40               ` Dave Jones
2002-12-20 16:08               ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-20  3:35     ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-20 17:32       ` Jon Tollefson
2002-12-19 20:09 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-12-19 20:32   ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 21:11     ` Stephen Wille Padnos
2002-12-19 21:40       ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 21:32         ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-12-19 21:55           ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 21:57             ` Eli Carter
2002-12-19 21:55               ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-12-19 22:45               ` Hanna Linder
2002-12-20  1:39                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-20  2:01                   ` Hanna Linder
2002-12-20  2:20                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-20 15:09                       ` Jon Tollefson
2002-12-20 23:52                         ` Hanna Linder
2002-12-21  3:30                           ` Jon Tollefson
2002-12-20 10:35                     ` Dave Jones
2002-12-20 19:37                       ` Hanna Linder
2002-12-20  2:10                   ` Hanna Linder
2002-12-20  2:22                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-20  2:58                       ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-12-20  3:21                         ` Martin J. Bligh
     [not found]                   ` <31080000.1040418947@w-hlinder>
2002-12-20 21:43                     ` Dedicated kernel bug database + documentaion Hanna Linder
2002-12-20 21:59                       ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-12-20 22:01                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-20 21:59                       ` Eli Carter
2002-12-21  2:52                     ` Dedicated kernel bug database Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-21  3:27                       ` Jon Tollefson
2002-12-30 21:58                         ` Hanna Linder
     [not found]               ` <mailman.1040338801.24520.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2002-12-19 23:59                 ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-12-20  0:19                   ` Hanna Linder
2002-12-20  0:24                     ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-12-20  1:01                       ` Hanna Linder
2002-12-20 10:32                         ` Dave Jones
2002-12-20 10:41                           ` Russell King
2002-12-20 10:30                     ` Dave Jones
2002-12-20 15:43                       ` Eli Carter
2002-12-19 22:23             ` Stephen Wille Padnos
2002-12-19 17:46 Dan Kegel
2002-12-19 18:00 ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 18:08   ` Eli Carter
2002-12-19 20:08     ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 20:38       ` Eli Carter
2002-12-19 20:59         ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 21:14           ` Eli Carter
2002-12-20 14:23           ` Horst von Brand
2002-12-19 22:05         ` Dan Kegel
2002-12-19 22:26         ` Dan Kegel
2002-12-19 23:09           ` John Bradford
     [not found] <2CC936747EA1284DA378A18D730697420158A50E@exchacad.ms.gettysburg.edu>
2002-12-19 20:33 ` Justin Pryzby
2002-12-19 21:04 Heater, Daniel (IndSys, GEFanuc, VMIC)
2002-12-20  2:26 Dan Kegel
2002-12-20 11:18 Nicolas Mailhot
2002-12-22  2:50 Hell.Surfers
2002-12-22  9:16 ` John Bradford
2002-12-22 18:53 Adam J. Richter

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