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From: Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru>
To: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	davidm@hpl.hp.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: PATCH 2.5.x disable BAR when sizing
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 18:26:24 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021223182624.A728@jurassic.park.msu.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15878.22747.913279.67149@argo.ozlabs.ibm.com>; from paulus@samba.org on Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 11:29:15AM +1100

On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 11:29:15AM +1100, Paul Mackerras wrote:
> We could relocate the ASIC if we could find the ioremaps and fix them
> up, or if we could get to all the drivers and have them re-do their
> ioremaps.  There is no way to do that at the moment, though.
> Typically the ASIC will have a couple of IDE interfaces, audio,
> serial, i2c, interrupt controller, wireless ethernet, timer, and PMU
> (power management unit) interfaces in it, so there are several drivers
> involved.

I see, thanks. I always had an impression that pci_init is called
way too late in the boot sequence, at least on the PCI-centric systems.
This makes all that PCI surgery really painful. Ideally, the init
order should be defined per architecture. This applies to the
generic device model as well: currently we have legacy, isa-pnp
and other stuff initialized and probed *before* PCI, though typically
these are hanging of the PCI bus. And it's a real problem on machines
with multiple PCI buses. Oh, well...

> In fact we don't really need to probe the BARs of the ASIC at all,
> because the device tree that we get from Open Firmware tells us the
> size and location of the resources it is using (along with all the
> other PCI devices in the system).  If we could have a
> platform-specific hook so that we could provide an alternative method
> for probing the BARs of certain PCI devices, that would let us avoid
> the whole problem.

It can be trivially done using Linus' idea of probing in 2 phases.
The pass 1 can be made 100% non-destructive: we can initialize
device structures, read in device/vendor IDs, class codes and
build the bus trees. Basically, everything that we do currently
minus pci_read_bases(), so the resource fields are blank. Then we
can call arch- and device-specific routines, where along with other
fixups the device BARs could be probed in arch-specific way and written
down in the pci_dev structure.
In the pass 2 (generic BAR probing), we can check the resource flags
for non-zero value and skip the probe of respective BAR.
This would make the code a LOT more flexible.

Ivan.

  reply	other threads:[~2002-12-23 15:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-12-19 21:37 Grant Grundler
2002-12-20  2:54 ` Alan Cox
2002-12-20  2:27   ` David Mosberger
2002-12-20  6:05     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-20 19:50   ` Grant Grundler
2002-12-20 20:14     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-20 21:22       ` Grant Grundler
2002-12-21 18:34       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-12-20 20:37     ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-12-20 21:29       ` Grant Grundler
2002-12-20  5:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-20  9:42   ` David Mosberger
2002-12-20 12:53     ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2002-12-20 17:05     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-20 18:26       ` David Mosberger
2002-12-20 19:28         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-21 22:06         ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-12-21 22:44           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-22  7:15             ` Paul Mackerras
2002-12-22 15:03               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-12-22 19:21                 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2002-12-23  0:29                   ` Paul Mackerras
2002-12-23 15:26                     ` Ivan Kokshaysky [this message]
2003-01-05 12:37                     ` [patch 2.5] PCI: allow alternative methods for probing the BARs Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-06  0:29                       ` Anton Blanchard
2003-01-06  4:14                       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-06  5:22                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-01-06 10:31                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-01-06 11:32                           ` Andrew Walrond
2003-01-06 22:01                             ` Grant Grundler
2003-01-06 19:45                           ` Grant Grundler
2003-01-07 17:05                             ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-07 17:46                               ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-07 20:17                               ` Grant Grundler
2003-01-08 14:47                                 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-08 22:34                                   ` Grant Grundler
2003-01-06 15:33                         ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-06 21:52                           ` Grant Grundler
2003-01-06 23:19                             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-07  0:13                               ` Grant Grundler
2003-01-07 12:33                                 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-07 17:27                                   ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-07 18:46                                     ` Alan Cox
2003-01-07 17:44                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-08 16:55                                     ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-09 17:46                                     ` [patch 2.5] 2-pass PCI probing, generic part Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-09 17:52                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-01-09 22:09                                         ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-09 22:16                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-09 22:26                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-01-10  3:49                                               ` Alan Cox
2003-01-09 23:19                                             ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-09 23:35                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-10  1:09                                                 ` Grant Grundler
2003-01-10  7:56                                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-01-10 19:00                                                     ` Grant Grundler
2003-01-10 21:42                                                       ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-10 23:07                                                         ` Grant Grundler
2003-01-11 19:39                                                         ` Scott Murray
2003-01-12  7:19                                                           ` Greg KH
2003-01-13  6:28                                                             ` Scott Murray
2003-01-10 13:35                                                 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-14 16:39                                                   ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-09 18:36                                       ` David Mosberger
2003-01-09 19:52                                       ` Grant Grundler
2003-01-09 22:40                                         ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-09 17:48                                     ` [patch 2.5] 2-pass PCI probing, hotplug changes Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-09 17:51                                     ` [patch 2.5] 2-pass PCI probing, i386 USB quirk Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-07 17:12                                 ` [patch 2.5] PCI: allow alternative methods for probing the BARs Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-07 17:06                             ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2002-12-22 19:51               ` PATCH 2.5.x disable BAR when sizing Linus Torvalds
2002-12-22 19:57                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-12-22 10:38             ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-12-22 18:39               ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2002-12-22 19:47                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-12-22 21:05                   ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2002-12-20 18:50       ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2002-12-20 19:11         ` Linus Torvalds

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