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From: Ville Herva <vherva@niksula.hut.fi>
To: "Grover, Andrew" <andrew.grover@intel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: CPU throttling??
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 00:31:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030203223104.GA1258@niksula.cs.hut.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F760B14C9561B941B89469F59BA3A84725A14A@orsmsx401.jf.intel.com>

On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 01:14:18PM -0800, you [Grover, Andrew] wrote:
> > From: Dave Jones [mailto:davej@codemonkey.org.uk] 
> > Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> > 
> >  > It's conceivable that a CPU halted at 1.2Gz takes less 
> > power than one
> >  > at 1.6Gz - anybody have any actual data on this?  
> > Alternately phrased,
> >  > does CPU throttling save power over and above what the halt does?
> > 
> > Given that most decent implementations scale voltage as well as
> > frequency, yes, a lower speed will save more power.
> 
> You save the most power when the CPU is at the lowest voltage level, and
> in the deepest CPU sleep state (aka CPU C state).
> 
> Throttling offers a linear power/perf tradeoff if your system doesn't
> have C state support (or if you aren't using it) but really it is
> preferable to keep the CPU at its nominal speed, get the work done
> sooner, and start sleeping right away. The quote above makes it sound
> like the voltage is scaled when throttling, and that isn't accurate -
> voltage is scaled when sleeping (to counteract leakage current), at
> least on modern Intel mobile processors.

Interesting.

So, what sw does one need for this CPU C state? Which kernels support it /
which patches are needed? 2.5 only?

Also, which CPUs support it? Am I out of luck with my measly 1.4 Celeron
Tualatin?

So far I've only been doing "Make CPU Idle calls when idle", which I gather
is far from optimal?


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-02-03 22:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-02-03 21:14 Grover, Andrew
2003-02-03 21:18 ` Dave Jones
2003-02-03 21:41   ` John Bradford
2003-02-03 22:14   ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-02-03 22:31 ` Ville Herva [this message]
2003-02-04 10:22 ` Seamus
2003-02-04 10:31   ` John Bradford
2003-02-04 11:01     ` Seamus
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-02-03 21:51 Grover, Andrew
2003-02-03 15:47 Joeri Belis
2003-02-03 16:55 ` CPU throttling?? Seamus
2003-02-03 17:00   ` Dave Jones
2003-02-03 17:04   ` Martin Hermanowski
2003-02-03 17:13   ` John Bradford
2003-02-03 18:57     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-02-03 19:02       ` Dave Jones
2003-02-03 19:09       ` Martin Hermanowski
2003-02-03 19:20         ` John Bradford
2003-02-04 14:12           ` Erik Mouw
2003-02-03 19:14       ` Matt Reppert
2003-02-03 19:24         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-02-04 14:34           ` Daniel Egger

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