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From: Daniel Jacobowitz <dan@debian.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: another subtle signals issue
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:05:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030212030527.GA15854@nevyn.them.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302111833120.2667-100000@home.transmeta.com>

On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 06:45:19PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Roland McGrath wrote:
> > 
> > I think sys_semop would be closer to right if it used ERESTARTSYS instead
> > of EINTR.
> 
> You probably mean ERESTARTSYSNOHAND.
> 
> There are lots of system calls that simply are not restartable. So 
> TIF_SIGPENDING in general should be set only if required, and not "because 
> it's easier".
> 
> > The reason I am concerned about this is that I think any case that is
> > broken by the lack of the optimization in the patch below must also be
> > broken vis a vis the semantics of stop signals and SIGCONT (when SIG_DFL,
> > SIG_IGN, or blocked).  POSIX says that when a process is stopped by
> > e.g. SIGSTOP, and then continued by SIGCONT, any functions that were in
> > progress at the time of stop are unaffected unless SIGCONT runs a handler.
> > That is, nobody returns EINTR because of the stop/continue.
> 
> This is what ERESTARTNOHAND does, but quite often if you get interrupted
> you have to return _partial_ results, which is quite inefficient and
> sometimes breaks programs (ie you get things like a read() from a pipe
> that returns a partial result because you resized the window, and a 
> SIGWINCH happened - and that is _bad_).
> 
> The old code tried rather hard to make signals that were truly ignored 
> (SIGSTOP/SIGCONT is not of that kind) be total non-events because of 
> things like this. 

For things with a timeout, shouldn't they be converted to use
ERESTART_RESTARTBLOCK?  The situation Roland is describing is just
about the same as the original problem with nanosleep.

-- 
Daniel Jacobowitz
MontaVista Software                         Debian GNU/Linux Developer

  reply	other threads:[~2003-02-12  2:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302111356550.1405-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
2003-02-12  2:06 ` Roland McGrath
2003-02-12  2:45   ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-12  3:05     ` Daniel Jacobowitz [this message]
2003-02-12  3:10       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-12  3:23         ` Roland McGrath
2003-02-12  3:38           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-12  3:13     ` Roland McGrath
2003-02-12  3:18       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-12  3:50         ` Roland McGrath
2003-02-12  4:21           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-12 20:12   ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-12 21:11     ` Roland McGrath
2003-02-12 21:19       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-12 21:58         ` Roland McGrath
2003-02-12 21:42       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-12 22:04         ` Roland McGrath

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