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From: Joel Becker <Joel.Becker@oracle.com>
To: george anzinger <george@mvista.com>
Cc: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Clock monotonic  a suggestion
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 11:43:00 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030321194300.GB31586@ca-server1.us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3E7AC6C9.5000401@mvista.com>

On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 12:01:13AM -0800, george anzinger wrote:
> To carry this to the absurd, it also precludes most anything other 
> than a GPS or WWV based clock.  If we are to have any clock that is 

	No, cycle counters do just fine.
 
> >1    gettimeofday = 1000000000
> >2    driver delays 10s
> >3    gettimeofday = 1000000000
> >4    timer notices lag and adjusts
> 
> Uh, how is this done?  At this time there IS correction for delays up 
> to about a second built into the gettimeofday() code.  You seem to be 
> assuming that we can do better than this with clock monotonic.  Given 
> the right hardware, this may even be possible, but why not correct 
> gettimeofday in the same way?

	monotonic_clock as proposed uses a hardware clock.
Specifically, the TSC on vanilla intel, the Cyclone timer on x440, and
associated clocks on S/390 (to speak of platforms I've visited
recently).  Right now, the hangcheck-timer accesses the hardware counter
directly.  monotonic_clock is intended as a portable and consistent
accessor instead.
	The current gettimeofday() corrects for ~1s.  Even if we found a
way to correct for ~1000s or more, there would still be a race between
when the caller reads and when the correction happens.  A clock that
reads a hardware counter doesn't have this problem.
	If code doesn't need this accuracy, it can just use
gettimeofday().

Joel

-- 

"Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever."  
         - Napoleon Bonaparte

Joel Becker
Senior Member of Technical Staff
Oracle Corporation
E-mail: joel.becker@oracle.com
Phone: (650) 506-8127

  reply	other threads:[~2003-03-21 20:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-03-21  0:16 george anzinger
2003-03-21  2:50 ` Joel Becker
2003-03-21  5:53   ` Chris Friesen
2003-03-21  8:10     ` george anzinger
2003-03-21  8:01   ` george anzinger
2003-03-21 19:43     ` Joel Becker [this message]
2003-03-21 20:53     ` john stultz
2003-03-21 13:17 ` Martin Waitz
2003-03-21 19:18   ` george anzinger
2003-03-21 19:46     ` Joel Becker
2003-03-21 19:44   ` Joel Becker

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