From: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>
To: viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk
Cc: ricklind@us.ibm.com, solt@dns.toxicfilms.tv,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, frankeh@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: must-fix list for 2.6.0
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 16:59:14 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030430165914.2facc464.akpm@digeo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030430234746.GW10374@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk>
viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 04:21:08PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > menu if there was a kernel build happening at the same time. That is just
> > utterly broken, so if we're going to leave the sched.c code as-is then we
> > *require* that all applications be updated to not spin on sched_yield.
>
> Excuse me, but WTF do they spin on the sched_yield() in the first place?
> _That_ sounds like utterly broken...
I think it's happening down inside the old linuxthreads library. No idea
who, what, where or why.
There are quite a few places in the kernel which do it, too. Usually when
waiting for memory to come free. These are being gradually removed, in
favour of blk_congestion_wait() calls.
That leaves behind the very performance-critical sched_yield() in ext3
transaction batching. That was designed to allow other processes to join a
transaction before the calling one closes the transaction. With the new
yield() it was causing horrid starvation and was lamely replaced with a
schedule(). It needs to be resurrected for real, but I'm not sure how.
Probably just a sleep(0.01).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-04-30 23:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-04-29 22:57 Andrew Morton
2003-04-29 23:22 ` John Bradford
2003-04-29 23:37 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-30 3:19 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-30 4:45 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-30 4:52 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-01 4:32 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-30 8:30 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-04-30 10:16 ` Maciej Soltysiak
2003-04-30 19:11 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-30 23:11 ` Rick Lindsley
2003-04-30 23:21 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-30 23:47 ` viro
2003-04-30 23:59 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2003-05-01 6:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-01 5:49 ` Shawn
2003-05-01 10:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-01 9:47 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-01 15:44 ` Robert Love
2003-05-01 0:09 ` Robert Love
2003-05-01 0:51 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2003-05-01 5:40 ` Dave Hansen
2003-05-01 11:57 ` Bill Huey
2003-04-30 23:53 ` Robert Love
2003-05-01 8:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-01 8:42 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-01 8:47 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-04-30 23:41 ` Robert Love
2003-05-01 16:50 ` Hubertus Franke
2003-05-01 3:21 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-05-01 6:26 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-05-01 14:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-01 18:42 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-01 18:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-02 1:57 ` Andreas Boman
[not found] <20030429155731.07811707.akpm@digeo.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2003-04-30 1:36 ` Andi Kleen
2003-04-30 18:09 ` Pavel Machek
2003-04-30 18:15 ` Andi Kleen
2003-04-30 19:11 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] <20030429231009$1e6b@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-04-30 4:55 ` Florian Weimer
2003-04-30 10:18 ` Maciej Soltysiak
2003-05-01 11:24 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-01 11:27 ` Florian Weimer
2003-05-01 12:03 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-01 12:05 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-02 16:28 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2003-05-02 21:14 ` David S. Miller
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