From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Using GPL'd Linux drivers with non-GPL, binary-only kernel
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 23:31:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030506223127.GD6284@mail.jlokier.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1052250792.1983.160.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk>
Alan Cox wrote:
> > What if this new-fangled other kernel is open source, but BSD license
> > instead? Would that also anger the kernel developers? (As I suspect
> > a closed-source binary kernel would, even if one could get away with it).
>
> Then the combined result would be a GPL'd product. You can do that now.
> Add BSD code to GPL and the result comes out GPL.
I disagree - as Pavel said, "if it's running in your kernel's
userspace", the GPL applies only to the thing running in that
"userspace", not to the whole combined machine.
> > Then, you can (a) rewrite everything, using the knowledge you gained
> > from reading the various open source drivers, or (b) just use those
> > drivers, and save a lot of effort.
>
> The GPL says "you can use them if your final new result is GPL", the BSD
> world says "Hey go do it, just say thanks". Its probably a lot simpler
> to use the FreeBSD code if you don't want a GPL result.
I understand the licensing in unambiguous causes, and I'm not trying
to find loopholes in awkward corners. I'm just observing that, as
closed-source binary modules are de facto accepted (with some funky
rules about which interfaces they can use), the same in reverse
_ought_ to be accepted to the same degree: Linux (and other) GPL'd
modules as satellites around a non-GPL kernel.
> For myself I'd be willing to discuss relicensing code in some cases but
> there is little that has a single author.
Thanks.
-- Jamie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-05-06 22:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-05-06 16:42 Jamie Lokier
2003-05-06 17:35 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-06 18:54 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-05-06 19:28 ` Jean-Marc Lienher
2003-05-06 19:53 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-06 22:31 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2003-05-06 21:38 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-08 21:36 ` Pavel Machek
2003-05-06 19:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-06 21:55 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-05-06 22:21 ` David Schwartz
2003-05-07 8:21 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-07 14:25 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-05-07 14:31 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-05-07 15:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-06 20:43 ` Pavel Machek
2003-05-06 22:18 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-05-06 21:31 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-06 22:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-05-07 12:20 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-07 14:26 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-05-07 15:18 ` Pavel Machek
2003-05-08 11:11 ` Krzysztof Halasa
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[not found] ` <20030506193019$0d29@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <20030506220018$5b96@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-05-07 1:17 ` Tony 'Nicoya' Mantler
[not found] <BKEGKPICNAKILKJKMHCAAEBCCLAA.Riley@Williams.Name>
2003-05-07 16:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-09 1:23 Jean Tourrilhes
2003-05-13 9:08 Dean McEwan
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